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Conservatories Will Become High Schools And ...

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Opening post by Ettore

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From the latest news I have heard, it seems that conservatories will disappear in favor of music high schools; pre-academic courses will be abolished (among other things, I seem to have understood that they are currently even "illegal") and only the most important conservatories will follow three-year and two-year programs, effectively becoming Universities.

Do you happen to have more precise news?

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Reply 3 by Thesimon

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But who told you this absurd thing? They just approved the reform of the conservatories and they are already going back on their word??? Mmmm that seems strange to me... Anyway, I'll see about getting information through indirect ways

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Reply 5 by Zedef

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That doesn't seem right to me at all. And pre-academic courses are perfectly legal (they are included in the 508 and in the DPR 212).

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Reply 7 by Thesimon

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I was wondering... How would it be possible to decide which conservatory to downgrade to a high school and which to promote to a university?

The MIUR-AFAM reform is very clear. From this year, new students will only be able to enroll in the new systems and will obtain three-year first-level bachelor's degrees and two-year second-level specialist degrees, exactly as happens in all other universities.

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Reply 8 by Vitrus

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TheSimon wrote:

I imagined... How would it be possible to decide which conservatory to downgrade to a high school and which to promote to a university?

The MIUR-AFAM reform speaks very clearly. From this year, new students will only be able to enroll in the new systems and will obtain three-year first-level bachelor's degrees and two-year second-level specialist degrees exactly as happens in all other universities.

At this point, the age limit for conservatory enrollment should also be extended.... or not?

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Reply 9 by ttw

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Vitrus wrote:

At this point, the age limit for enrollment in the conservatory should also be extended.... or not?

... it is already like this for AFAM courses

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Reply 10 by Vitrus

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ttw wrote:

... it is already like this for AFAM courses

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interesting... age limit? instruments?

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Reply 13 by Zedef

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For pre-academics, every conservatory behaves differently: in many cases, however, except for the most popular instruments where they take young students, there are no age limits.

For academics, the only constraint is having a high school diploma (or obtaining it within the three-year period).

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Reply 14 by Frank

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Zedef wrote:

For academics, the only requirement is having a high school diploma (or obtaining it within the three-year period).

There should also be passing an entrance exam; to be clear, the courses have limited enrollment

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Reply 15 by Vitrus

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great, I also found the three-year program for pf on my city's conservatory website

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Reply 16 by Zedef

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Frank wrote:

You would also have to pass an entrance exam, to be clear, the courses have limited enrollment

Obviously, but I took it for granted (erroneously). They aren't strictly limited enrollment anyway, let's say restricted.

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Reply 18 by Thesimon

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That if you are not at a certain level, you are not able to follow the courses. In essence, there is no limited enrollment, but students must arrive with a certain degree of minimum preparation...

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Reply 19 by Zedef

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It means that, whereas once every instrumental teacher had to have about 10 students, now there is no defined number. If you mainly have two-year and three-year programs, fewer are needed to complete the required hours; if you have pre-academic students, more are required.

This means that in the Conservatory, students enter as long as there is space.

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Reply 20 by Frank

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True ZedeF, but usually the number of applicants exceeds the number of available places, so a ranking is created based on the results of the entrance exam and consequently, even if theoretically there wouldn't be a declared fixed number but rather one depending on various factors, it is as if there were.

Anyway, the important thing is to understand each other

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