Technical problems and their resolution

3 strings that "support" little

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Opening post by nancy

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I have a problem that I can't understand....

in the almost new grand piano (1/2) that I have - Seiler - I noticed something right away that felt strange to me; initially, I attributed it to a matter of habit... but now I am beginning to better understand what is bothering me and I don't know if it can be resolved.

the right pedal provides little support... in certain passages where the volume of sound is contained, it often seems to me as if its presence is questionable.... my husband, who besides the doorbell at home doesn't play anything at all, instinctively tells me that I am not pressing my foot down hard enough.... but I have also checked and that is not the case. in certain pieces it sounds less (like Chopin's Polonaise) and I don't find it difficult to play.... but doing other things like Albeniz's Triana becomes extremely heavy precisely because I lack much of the pedal support.

can it be adjusted somehow or is it a quality of the instrument???

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Reply 2 by Andry

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Don't worry, Nancy, it falls into one of those things that can be fixed without major problems; check if the pedal rod, before it enters the wooden block, has any small knobs or visible screws. If so, before moving it by unscrewing or screwing, make a mark to see the effect. If you don't find anything like this, we will wait for other advice.

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Reply 4 by Celibidache

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Press the pedal all the way down and try playing while keeping it held down. The dampers should not lift any further.

Then approach and observe if the dampers, with the pedal fully depressed, are completely away from the strings.

To perform a complete check, one would need to see the inside of the piano and take some measurements...

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Reply 5 by nancy

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I just got back from work now

i think I've understood... which screw it is .... thank goodness... I was afraid it was unchangeable. In practice, that screw increases the pedal travel and lifts the dampers more!! Now tomorrow (at a decent hour) I will do various tests and let you know.... I can't wait.

thanks to you too Celibidache....that was a test I had already done and the dampers seem right to me.

thanks again

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Reply 6 by Celibidache

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If everything is correct, you must observe at what point of the stroke the pedal begins to lift the dampers.

If too late, you will have the sensation you currently have of little resonance; if too early, there will instead be unwanted sound tails even with the pedal completely released.

One must find the right balance...

The "manual" would suggest that, with the pedal released, there should be a slight gap between the all-lift bar and the dampers, but this must also be evaluated based on one's own style.

The important thing is that there are no resonances when the pedal is raised.

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Reply 7 by pianoexpert

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Nancy, the screw is a "hex nut" that is at the end of the pedal rod in October. By unscrewing it, you should advance the movement of the dampers with the pedal. Happy Easter

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Reply 8 by nancy

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Yes, yes, a kind of bolt! I tried turning it and even with minimal movements it makes a huge difference... the dampers lift more and sooner.... and the support increases tremendously... now I have to do various tests to find the right point... for now I have no sound tails and I can finally use the half-pedal too....

THANK YOU! !

Happy Easter to you all too!

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Reply 9 by giovannig

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The check consists of seeing that with the pedal pressed, the dampers rise to the same level they would rise to with the keys alone. That is, playing piano with the pedal pressed, no moving dampers should be seen. However, be careful because while it is true that turning the screw at the tip of the rod advances the rising of the dampers, how high they reach depends on the pedal lever's travel stop, which is sometimes adjusted with small felt squares or with another limit screw.... Therefore, it is necessary to verify both things.

Happy Easter

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Reply 10 by nancy

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now it is perfect!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i have done various tests and found the right spot... a whole other planet... i exert half the effort!! and above all, I can say I am completely "in love" with my piano!!!! studying is just a pleasure!!

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