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Hi, my name is Filippo, I recently switched to the piano after about ten years of studying classical, acoustic, and electric guitar. With that typical sense of disorientation you feel when changing instruments, trying to rediscover all those basics that had been consolidated over the years, well... seeing this wonderful tide of information on the Piano available here truly pleases me. I will spread the word among my musician friends and tell them what a great site I have discovered :-)

Greetings and good music!

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Reply 2 by Thesimon

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cantor wrote:

Hi, my name is Filippo, I recently switched to the piano after about ten years of studying classical, acoustic, and electric guitar. With that typical sense of disorientation you feel when changing instruments, trying to rediscover all those foundations that had been consolidated over the years, well... seeing this wonderful tide of information on the Piano available here truly pleases me. I will spread the word among my musician friends and tell them what a great site I have discovered :-)

Greetings and happy music!

Dearest Filippo, welcome to our portal. I hope you will settle in well... We opened recently (about 3 months, give or take a week) and we hope to continue growing. Advertising is certainly something that benefits us, so you are right, inform your friends as well. The more of us there are, the better. Other welcome posts from the rest of the gang will follow.

Enjoy your stay...

Reply 3 by cantor

TheSimon wrote:

Dearest Filippo, welcome to our portal. I hope you will settle in well... We opened recently (about 3 months, give or take a week) and we hope to continue growing. Advertising is certainly something that benefits us, so you are right, inform your friends as well. The more of us there are, the better we do. Other welcome posts from the rest of the gang will follow.

Enjoy your stay...

Yes, yes, I'll spread the word right away, greetings ๐Ÿ˜†

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Reply 5 by gian

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Hi Filippo, welcome from my side too. I also subscribed only a very short time ago, but as Simone told you, we are all young here. It was a pleasure to read about your already long experience with music. I would be interested to know the reason why, in addition to the guitar, you have now started wanting to study the piano as well. The piano is an extraordinary instrument; I have always loved listening to it, but I had never thought about studying it, something I only recently started doing.

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Reply 6 by cantor

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hi Glan ehehhehe I've been looking for a rational reason for about a month now too! The piano is the first instrument I approached (but I didn't play it, I had only tried it at school at 8 years old and every now and then I "played" with one I have at home). Every now and then I used it and I always had the desire to change instruments, but I lacked the madness and the open-mindedness to do it! (it was a bit like if I had changed wives ahhahaha fortunately I am young enough not to know this aspect!)

I still like the guitar, but on the guitar I can't find that expressiveness and clear division between the rhythmic and solo parts (even with fingerpicking). Plus, with the piano, I can go from moments of extreme sweetness to prevailing rage and I love this too much! Making comparisons would seem wrong to me (if I could, I would play all musical instruments, one is more beautiful than the other!). I don't know, as far as the piano is concerned, something clicked, I couldn't explain it to you :-)

Perhaps the most correct answer is that over time I discovered that it is more like me and I started playing it. Greetings and good music ;-)

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Reply 7 by gian

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Filippo, in what you write I find something that is familiar to me. Guitar, piano (but also other instruments: sax, violin, trumpet, drums, bass, oboe, bassoon, cello etc. etc., all fascinating), especially these two, guitar and piano, are instruments on which I feel like reflecting, to try to understand them, just as you have tried. For my part, I say immediately that I don't understand; I try to attempt to understand, but it is a useless attempt. Would one need the help of a psychologist to understand it? But no, even he wouldn't understand anything! But understand what? Filippo, I was a child when I listened to the music of the Beatles and I was shocked and very fascinated by those guitars hanging from the shoulders of those who played them. And then that sound, that extraordinary sound, especially when they use distortion, which makes your skin crawl with pleasure. And then Jimi Hendrix and his incredible Fender Stratocaster (you know it, right?). And Led Zeppelin, Robert Fripp, David Gilmour, wow, all with an incredibly fascinating sound: when I listen to a concert, a record, the guitar sends me into ecstasy. And so I also tried to play it; I even have two brothers who play it, one even has a band with which he has been performing for several years. And yet, Filippo, although the guitar is the instrument I like listening to most, I don't like playing it; it tells me nothing; after half an hour I get tired of playing it, and know that I have a Gibson, so not just any guitar. But why don't I like playing the guitar since it is the instrument I love listening to most? I don't know! Should one, as I wrote before, ask a psychologist? And why instead, even though I instinctively prefer rock musicโ€”when I have to listen to music I prefer rock, but when I have to play I prefer classical music? That is why in the past I studied the flute, classical music obviously, and now I am fascinated by the piano, and I can't wait to learn to play Mozart, Beethoven, Chopin etc. What does this mean?

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Reply 8 by cantor

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When I play, I don't rule anything out, but over time I've learned that I have a Black/White character, eheh. I was obsessed and still am with the Blues (it is definitely what led me to play). Those old blues tracks with open tunings, with bottlenecks always close at hand. Robert Johnson, John Lee Hooker, Muddy Waters, Albert King, Buddy Guy, B.B. King, but also the Texas Blues of Johnny Winter, and Stevie Ray Vaughan who made me pick up the guitar (there, I've already started at full speed, you must have noticed! lol). Then there would also be English Blues, like Clapton (a great guitarist), but I much prefer African and therefore subsequently African-American Blues (in short, the roots, from work songs onwards). And also Blues/Jazz like Robben Ford or Irish and Scottish music, and folk music like John Renbourn. Then, do you just throw Pink Floyd away? Not at all! And Deep Purple? And Dire Straits? Joe Satriani too. I also had my metal period when I was younger, but it never spilled over musically, only in listening, because I have always liked the cleanliness of sound and generally prefer analog to digital (even if I later opened up to digital as well, and for some things it is very useful).

I learned to appreciate the classical approach over time, but it happened naturally; no constraint or obligation to read music, just interest and passion that pushed me to do it. And now that I find myself starting everything from scratch, searching for a Master (sob, I haven't found one yet, I would really like someone who has a classical method), correcting posture problems, reacquiring mastery of the instrument and also that natural approach you have when approaching itโ€”in theory, I should be feeling a bit down... instead, I am more excited than ever and studying like crazy :-)

I don't have a good classical culture, not at all, partly because I am the only one interested in these things in my whole family (with the result of being the only crazy one, eheh), and I had a rock/metal teacher who was very dependent on tablature and songs (whose musical tastes are different from mine, but he taught me a lot). I also love Beethoven; he is the one I feel closest to musically, he is my favorite. Then I like Chopin, Liszt (the Romantic movement is my ideal world, ehehh), then Wagner, Bach (or at least those are the ones that touch my soul when I hear them), and obviously I like many others too.

Eheheheheh sorry if I went on for so long, but it was stronger than me! I believe a psychologist is needed for those who deny themselves the possibility of knowing such a beautiful world to do common workโ€”those types of people who set music aside because "they don't have time," according to them: you always find the time to do something you like. And that's why they need a psychologist.

In the end, there is no artist (even the best in this world) who can say they are completely master of their own art, in my opinion. We grasp, we catch a moment, and what leads us to discover this now and that later is curiosity. If Music were limited only to executive ability, I wouldn't be playing :-)

Greetings!

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Reply 9 by pianoexpert

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Well .....I see that I am late...the discussions on our Forum are very fast....So ..even if late, I welcome you, Filippo, "friend of horses" (this is what your name means)...now also friend of the Piano. ๐Ÿ˜† Welcome and happy practicing.

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Reply 10 by cantor

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pianoexpert wrote:

Well .....I see that I am late...the discussions on our Forum are very fast....So ..even if late, I welcome you, Filippo, "friend of horses" (this means your name)...now also friend of the Piano. ๐Ÿ˜† Welcome and happy practicing.

Yes, now also friend of the piano :-) I thank you from the bottom of my heart and know that your work, (and that of the entire staff obviously), is a great help to those who play and want to understand how their instrument works and what lies behind those sensations that modify its sound, (the phrase you used is Perfect). To learn some things about the guitar in due time, I had to chase after luthiers or take some lutherie lessons with my teacher ehehhe, (unfortunately the common mentality is that people often keep the secrets of the trade... when instead sharing is fundamental, in my opinion, and this does not prevent them from working; on the contrary, being able to talk about their work is, in my opinion, rewarding). If I had found a site like this before, I think I would have jumped for joy.

Best wishes, greetings!

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Reply 11 by Thesimon

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Yes, exactly! Keeping culture and art in general a secret is totally stupid. Humanity moves upward precisely thanks to the foundations laid and now proven by others....

For goodness sake... Use the informal 'tu' with Paolo, otherwise you'll make him your enemy!! ๐Ÿ˜† Then he says you make him feel old!!

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Reply 12 by cantor

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TheSimon wrote:

Exactly, just like that! Keeping culture and art in general a secret is totally stupid. Humanity moves upward precisely thanks to the foundations laid and now proven by others....

For goodness' sake... Use the informal 'tu' with Paolo, otherwise you'll make him an enemy!! ๐Ÿ™‚ Then he says you make him feel old!!

I completely agree.

It was spontaneous for me to use the formal 'lei' out of politeness ehehehe I will use 'tu' with him ๐Ÿ˜†

Greetings ๐Ÿ˜†

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Reply 13 by pianoexpert

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exactly!!!!! Use the informal 'tu' with me. I didn't think I had sparked such great interest!!! Thanks for the appreciation. I am happy about it and will continue to talk about piano technique, also with reference to how the instrument works. See you soon

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Reply 14 by gian

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cantor wrote:

When I play, I don't restrict myself at all, but I learned over time that I have a Black/White character, eheh. I was obsessed and still am with the Blues (it is definitely what led me to play). Those old blues tracks with open tunings, with a bottleneck always close at hand. Robert Johnson, John Lee Hooker, Muddy Waters, Albert King, Buddy Guy, B.B. King, but also the Texas Blues of Johnny Winter, and Stevie Ray Vaughan who made me pick up the guitar (there, I've already started at full speed, you probably noticed! lol). Then there would also be English Blues, like Clapton (a great guitarist), but I much prefer African and subsequently Afro-American Blues (in short, the roots, from work songs onwards). And also Blues/Jazz like Robben Ford or Irish and Scottish music, and folk music like John Renbourn. Then, do you throw Pink Floyd away? Not at all! And Deep Purple? And Dire Straits? Joe Satriani too. I also had my metal period when I was younger, but it never spilled over musically, only in listening, because I have always liked the cleanliness of sound and generally prefer analog to digital (even if I later opened up to digital as well, and for some things it is very useful).

I learned to appreciate the classical approach over time, but it happened naturally; no constraint or obligation to read music, just interest and passion that pushed me to do it. And now that I find myself starting everything from scratch, searching for a Master (sob, I haven't found one yet, I would really like someone who has a classical method), correcting posture problems, reacquiring mastery of the instrument and also that natural approach you have when approaching itโ€”in theory, I should be feeling a bit down... instead, I am more excited than ever and studying like crazy :-)

I don't have a good classical background, not at all, partly because I am the only one interested in these things in my whole family (with the result of being the only crazy one, eheh), and I had a rock/metal teacher who was very dependent on tablature and songs (whose musical tastes are different from mine, but he left me with a lot). I also love Beethoven; he is the one I feel closest to musically, he is my favorite. Then I like Chopin, Liszt (the Romantic movement is my ideal world, ehehh), then Wagner, Bach (or at least those are the ones that touch my soul when I hear them), and obviously I like many others too.

Ehehehehe sorry if I went on for so long, but it was stronger than me! I believe a psychologist is needed for those who deny themselves the possibility of knowing such a beautiful world to do common workโ€”those types of people who set music aside because "they don't have time," according to them: you always find the time to do something you like. And that's why they need a psychologist.

In the end, there is no artist (even the best in this world) who can say they are completely master of their art, in my opinion. We grasp, we catch a moment, and what leads us to discover this now and that later is curiosity. If Music were limited only to executive ability, I wouldn't be playing :-)

Best regards!

Filippo, you have written an excellent page! What else can be added? I have always loved the blues, too, very much: John Lee Hooker (with his splendid Epiphone), B.B. King and all the other fathers of this fabulous musical genre that in the following decades produced other great musicians: names like the ones you mentioned. Of course, even Joe Satriani, wow, is terrifying with his guitar. Pink Floyd, but also King Crimson, which I still love listening to. Robert Fripp, Adrian Belew. And also metal, not everyone obviously, but for example Metallica is not bad, though I like Led Zeppelin more, with their energetic, explosive, yet clean sound, and also Deep Purple, right? Music, all of it, rock, blues, classical etc., is a blessing for all of us human beings; in fact, it is a wonder, just like colors, smells, landscapes, the starry sky: everything is wonderful, obviously that which harms no one, and music has never harmed anyone (they say that even in Heaven, in the presence of God, there is music) and the infinite variety of musical genres satisfies everyone. Yes, everyone, except for a very few people who cannot even stand it as background music: I knew a friend, several years ago, heaven forbid turning on the radio in her presence, not even at a very low volume, because she would have "seizures," but she was unwell, she was actually seeing a psychoanalyst. Also an ex-colleague of mine (I always had a radio at work), when he heard music (fortunately we weren't always on the same shift), he would start getting nervous, just like a psychopath: he wasn't in treatment, but I believe he would have needed it. But yes, Filippo, because it is exactly as you say: it is those who do not love music who need a psychologist. Music is life, it is like the air we breathe, like the blood that flows in our veins, like the water that quenches our thirst, like the sunlight...

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