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A prime minister who talks about music

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Yesterday morning, as everyone knows, the new Prime Minister Matteo Renzi gave his speech to the Senate to obtain a vote of confidence. A speech that was certainly very original from every point of view; a speech made more to the people than to the senators; a speech that, if it was expected not to be "particularly appreciated" by the opposition, also saw very little enthusiasm from those senators who, with varying degrees of stomach aches and other various cramps, felt forced to vote for him.

I should preface this: I am neither an early-era Renzi supporter nor a recent one; I have never had the urge to jump on the winning bandwagon, nor, much less, to identify myself—aside from often beastly youthful mistakes—with other people.

I have my own ideas, I am from the Left, and I can well understand certain points of view that may or may come from that area. But equally, I cannot understand how, in the face of a factual novelty such as what occurred these past few days, people blinded probably by their personal pride and their desire to be prima donnas, fail to see that Renzi, regardless, is a great opportunity for this tormented country.

In Bologna there is a saying: talk is talk and tagliatelle are eaten. Well! Before shooting judgmentally, let us see what the issues are and, above all, if there will indeed be any tagliatelle.

In the meantime, however, I must note that in the Prime Minister's speech, for the first time—barring memory lapses or my own inattention—Music and Music in schools were explicitly mentioned.

If it is as I think, it is a truly extraordinary novelty, and it is strange that this part of his speech escaped those who, for one reason or another, have been trying to bring this topic to the forefront for decades.

Here is the part I am referring to: "If it is said that the phrase 'you can't eat culture' is wrong, one must also have the courage to say that culture must open itself up to the involvement of private investment and create jobs.

I would, however, like to show myself and you the faces and features of those who, in these years, have had

the opportunity, for example, to see a museum at night, have had the opportunity to be questioned by

an artwork, have had the opportunity to try to listen to the beauty of music, not

only in schools—where it should be brought or brought back in a different way—but also in

daily life."

I already know, I can already hear someone's grumbling: is that all?

Good heavens, gentlemen, this is unheard of. When have you ever heard a Prime Minister say even just this small part or something similar: 'had the opportunity to be questioned by an artwork, had the opportunity to try to listen to the beauty of music'?

Never! A sentence like that has behind it either a very sensitive soul or, for the umpteenth time, a clever trickster. I will at least credit him with having said it... then regarding this and much other beautiful things he said yesterday, I await the tagliatelle. But, however you look at it, if the tagliatelle do not arrive, do not be happy about it, because it will nonetheless be, just a disaster, uglier and more painful than any other.

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Reply 2 by thallo

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These days I am having very bitter battles with many friends, who, in order to express their dissent towards Renzi and his choices, are not only bringing out the worst sides of themselves (the attacks on Madia are, in my opinion, absolute garbage) but are also ignoring unique gems like the one mentioned by Daniele.

The problems of the Italian school system are many, and based on my small experience as an internet user, I can confidently state that no politician will ever succeed in pleasing everyone. But I think we should start from a small and simple principle: everyone wants to do good. I am convinced of it. Those who make mistakes do so out of the conviction that they are doing the right thing, and often and willingly, even in "technical" matters, it is possible to find models and opinions for every season.

A very small example. Recently, I found myself commenting on the status of an acquaintance who was complaining about Scelta Civica's ideas regarding school. For those who didn't know, Stefania Giannini, the new Minister of Education, belongs to that area. Well, it seems that Scelta Civica has expressed the need to decrease the hours of frontal teaching in high schools and decrease philosophy hours... or at least that is how my acquaintance presented things. Regardless of the fact that statements matter little and facts matter more, so as long as there is no implementing decree we should STOP tearing our hair out; it has been said for years that Italian schools have too many teaching hours and that kids don't learn a thing by sitting around listening to the teacher. On the other hand, however, as soon as a reduction in total hours is proposed, the complaints start, along with catchphrases like "they are destroying the West!", and conspiracies claiming they want everyone to be ignorant, etc., etc.

I think all of this is a bit exaggerated.

I would very much like musical instruction to reach high schools. And I would like musical education in middle schools to be completely rethinked. But I myself am the product of the school system that I criticize, and this leads me to say that it is possible to become musicians, to love music, and to improve oneself through music EVEN within this school system.

I admit that if I were in Government, I would consider other reforms a priority, still within the theme of schooling. School buildings are more important, in my view, as is the school-business relationship, mathematical and scientific teaching...

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Reply 3 by Frank

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thallo wrote:

i myself am the product of the school system that I criticize, and this leads me to say that one can become musicians, learn to love music, and improve oneself thanks to music EVEN IN this school system.

Interesting, several times I have reached the same conclusions... despite my various ruminations on the matter.

... and why would this happen?

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Reply 4 by pestatasti

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thallo wrote:

I would very much like musical instruction to reach high schools. And I would like musical education in middle schools to be completely rethought.

I will add: during literature hours, literary texts are read and analyzed (and sometimes memorized), during art history hours ("art" which is evidently conceived exclusively as figurative-architectural) works are explained, and in both cases, the biographies of great writers, painters, sculptors, and architects of the past are learned.

Why isn't the same done with music? Perhaps music of art is considered something too high for young people? Is it believed that a child does not have the tools to listen to great music, while instead (strangely) they do have them to understand the songs of the Divine Comedy? Or perhaps music is not considered true art?

I wish that in class Beethoven's Ninth would be listened to as The Betrothed is read... that Verdi's biography were taught as Pascoli's is taught...

The fact that this does not happen is truly an absurdity

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Reply 5 by LucaCavaliere

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pestatasti wrote:

Why don't we do the same with music? Perhaps art music is considered something too high up for young people? Is it believed that a child doesn't have the tools to listen to great music, while instead (strangely) they do have them to understand the songs of the Divine Comedy? (...) The fact that this isn't happening is truly an absurdity

Sad questions you ask. I imagine many of us share them.

Some time ago Dante (forum member) had pointed out this intervention by Quirino Principe. Bitter but worth seeing. I dare to repost the link.

http://www.pianoconcerto.it/forum/index.php?/topic/2862-quirino-principe-facciamo-lavorare-la-testa/

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Reply 6 by pestatasti

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Now I understand... "enough with the embroidery, the lace, the music"...

Of course, thinking about De Sanctis's speech (and the consequences), Renzi's reference to the need to "bring or bring back" the beauty of music into schools (and into daily life) is indeed, as you say, unheard of.

Let's hope for the tagliatelle...

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Reply 7 by Rotore

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All true, but... Renzi, when is he going to stop calling himself a "boy"? ... and boy from here and boy from there. Me and other boys my age, and so on.

Our self-elected Premier is almost forty years old! Once, people became emperors at 15 and died at 40... maybe he's already grown up, no?

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Reply 8 by danielescarpetti

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Rotore wrote:

All true, but... Renzi, can he stop calling himself a "boy"? ... a boy from here and a boy from there. Me and other boys my age, and so on.

Our self-elected Premier is almost forty years old! Once, people became emperors at 15 and died at 40... perhaps he has already grown up, no?

I can't say you're wrong, but he isn't entirely to blame for this. A friend of mine who is almost 60 always greets me by saying: "hi boy," and I am almost 56.

And because we live in a world where middle grounds no longer exist, one goes from boys/girls to old men/women. One is never in the middle ground, which is that of mature men and women.

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Reply 10 by Thesimon

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I have very precise ideas and Renzi, despite the fact that he should appeal to me due to the partial similarity with my surname, does not reflect them. In this context, I am not even yet examining his political ideas aimed at tidying up the country, but rather the lack of democratic choice on his part, and even more gravely on Napolitano's part. Let us always remember, in fact, that Renzi is the third Prime Minister who was not elected by the people. Not to mention the various tricks regarding the electoral law. As a voter, I believe it is right to choose one's own candidates who have given us a good impression by telling us their political ideas. On the contrary, I find it very unfair to vote for a party and leave to that same party's lead candidate the (undemocratic) choice of ordering within the list those who will be his ministers. In short, I believe it is right that the people must choose in toto whom they want to be governed by!

Regarding Renzi's politics, I hope these are not just more empty words, especially because not long ago there was a context in which he expressly said he wanted to aspire to the office of Prime Minister only and exclusively if the people wanted it (having already won the PD primaries).

It doesn't seem to me at all that it went that way...

Declaring after the first day of entering the Chamber of Deputies that the matter was desired by the party seems to me only a cumbersome and unconvincing way to go back on one's word.

In any case, we shall see; since we are ruined either way, we cannot go any worse than this...

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