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Advice on female voices in opera

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Opening post by luigigi

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Hi, I know you will insult me, but at the dawn of 57 years, filters hold less and less, and therefore, although not being proud of it, I am not afraid to say that when I listen to a record where Callas sings, most of the time I change the playlist. It is evident that I have major limitations, but still.... In the lyric field, in fact, I prefer operas where the male voice is predominant, or operas which, as far as I can understand, require female voices with "dramatic" characteristics (in short, I like Wagner) or voices that "gorgheggiano poco" [little coloratura/trilling] (I like Freni, Tebaldi, B. Nilsson). After these blasphemies, do you have any singers to recommend to me? Thanks in advance

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Reply 2 by Annuccia

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Your post seems a bit confrontational in the sense that the fact you are comparing your reaction while listening to Callas makes it seem like you prefer works where the male voice is predominant; therefore, Callas might not even be relevant.

To be objective, you should take the same opera and listen to it from different performers; then you refer to gorgheggi (?) or anyway to vocal characteristics that indeed depend more on the composer's requirements than on the performer themselves—I mean, Callas sang the operas where her vocal characteristics were suitable. Don't tell me that singing Rossini is the same as singing Puccini or Mozart, right?

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Reply 3 by Tiger

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Given that it depends on the work, in general, excluding Callas (number 1), you could try listening to Cecilia Bartoli, Renata Scotto and the aforementioned Renata Tebaldi.

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Reply 4 by luigigi

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Annuccia wrote:

Your post seems a bit confrontational in the sense that the fact you are comparing your interpretation during the listening of Callas is due to the fact that you prefer works where the male voice is predominant; therefore, Callas might not even be relevant.

To be objective, you should take the same opera and listen to it from different performers; then you refer to gorgheggi (?) or anyway to vocal characteristics that indeed depend more on the composer's requirements than on the performer themselves—I mean, Callas sang the operas where her vocal characteristics were suitable. Don't tell me that singing Rossini is the same as singing Puccini or Mozart, right?

It could be that I simply cannot stand female voices in general. If I remember correctly, Mozart once complained in a letter about singers who were making it fashionable to vibrate the voice excessively. I like how female singers use their voices in Baroque or Renaissance operas

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Reply 5 by luigigi

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Tiger wrote:

Given that it depends on the opera, generally excluding Callas (number 1), you could try listening to Cecilia Bartoli, Renata Scotto and the aforementioned Renata Tebaldi.

In fact, I like Scotto quite a lot. Bartoli... much, much less

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Reply 6 by antares86

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Curious, given that Bartoli is technically specialized in baroque repertoire... I suggest two other baroque repertoire singers to you: soprano Gemma Bertagnolli and, if you are also interested in a contralto, Delphine Galou.

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