But that's not true, it's not quite like that. A friend of mine two years ago bought a Schimmel 208 that was like new, 15 or 20 years old.... paid 7000 euros. Then he got tired of it, sold it to a well-known dealer in Milan for 12 thousand euros and now it is for sale at 19,000 euros.
The truth is that you need to know how to evaluate used items or rely on a technician who surely has some opportunities to report among his clients, provided he is not a dealer himself.
You can also find various opportunities on Subito or other classified ads; you have to see it and not start with your idea that they are all refurbished anyway... and I tell you this from direct experience, not hearsay.
Curiosity.... do you really know how the used market works, or do you have your own opinion and present it with conviction?
Evidently your friend was lucky. Then I didn't understand what relying on a technician means. You have to bring the technician yourself and they must be someone you trust if you really want to buy used as you say. And anyway, I am of the opinion that in my view a new one is always better than a bad used one. But I read that you are from Monza? Isn't it that on these piano forums there are always the same people? I had met someone in another piano forum who thought like you. Booooo. Maybe I am wrong. Anyway, I have my idea and you have yours and there is no point in continuing. Our friend Bruno6 can take inspiration from this to make a good purchase.
But that's not true, it's not quite like that. A friend of mine two years ago bought a Schimmel 208 that was like new, 15 or 20 years old.... paid 7,000 euros. Then he got tired of it, sold it to a well-known dealer in Milan for 12,000 euros, and now it is for sale at 19,000 euros.
The truth is that you need to know how to evaluate used items or rely on a technician who surely has some opportunities to report among their clients, provided they are not a dealer themselves.
You can also find various opportunities on Subito or other classified ads; you have to see it in person and not start with your idea that they are all refurbished anyway... and I tell you this from direct experience, not hearsay.
Curiosity.... do you really know how the used market works, or do you just have your own opinion and present it with conviction?
But by any chance, do you know a certain Fra from Monza, who is also a piano expert? If you know him, say hello to him for me.
Practically speaking, relying on a technician means bringing your own trusted technician who can evaluate the piano, regardless of whether it is purchased from a private individual or a shop, because defects can exist even in shops and even in new pianos.
Relying on a technician can also mean that you can benefit from information regarding a customer who is selling the piano, why not.
A private individual rarely trusts buying from another private individual due to the warranty, but in my opinion, the best warranty is the one provided by the trusted technician who evaluates the piano and will follow its maintenance.
As for refurbished pianos coming from Japan, their purchase is inadvisable because Japan is an island, there are typhoons, and there is the sea.... A piano kept for a long time in those climatic conditions, even if new or renewed in appearance, hides other problems, such as oxidized screws inside or the stiffness of the soundboard due to the salty climate... Things that are discovered when you work on the instruments.
Returning to your consideration about luck, it is not a matter of luck but rather the rule of used goods.... Furthermore, among the opportunities, recognizing a scam is easy for a technician, very easy. Therefore, I don't see all these problems regarding purchase security that are brought up from time to time, which would justify the purchase of a medium-to-low quality new piano compared to a high-quality used one at the same or even lower price.
As for the other question, I don't know; I generally don't go to read where users write from, I'm not interested.
There are also Hyunday models on the used market; the latest ones designed by Fenner are very good. A technician's advice is more important than the brand itself; the piano must be evaluated case by case.
Hi guys, an update for you: I tried the C3... Nothing... I'm backing off, I won't even bring the technician, I don't like it already. Oh well, I'll keep looking around my area. Thanks for the advice guys. I knew Schimmel, but not the other brands. Hyunday is a great tip, thanks Giovanni. I'll keep you updated
How can one give a judgment with just a small photo? Relying on your taste is a good starting point, also keeping in mind that a poorly presented piano can make a bad impression, but perhaps it is valid if tuned, regulated, and intonated.
