Hello everyone and Merry Christmas, in January I will start studying piano and wanting to combine different needs (not disturbing the neighbors, little space, not disturbing my wife and children - my study hours could be in the morning between 6 and 7 and in the evening between 10 and 11, and finally an initial economic investment that is not excessive) I was thinking of renting a digital piano.
I saw the Roland F-110 at a shop in Bologna (All for Music) and from the reviews it seems like a good instrument (http://www.roland.com/products/en/F-110/) for studying (they are asking me 35 euros per month) what do you think?
In the future, if I manage to study consistently and find adequate space in the house, I will purchase an upright acoustic piano, or if conditions allow, I will bring up from Rome my father's August Forster upright piano, purchased in 1950 from Ciampi (imagine that back then it cost 320 lire); my father tells me that on that day the determining factor in choosing the instrument was the chance encounter with Trovaioli who before him had asked Ciampi for that very piano. My father's piano is in good condition but to the naked eye, it seems to me that it needs a restoration, I think also of the mechanics (as far as I know, he has never changed the strings!!!), but I don't know anything about piano restorations and I don't even know how much it would cost me and as I was saying, right now I cannot afford an excessive economic investment.
One last piece of advice I ask you is about headphones because obviously I would study with them given the study hours. I don't know much about it but I think I would want something that allows me to isolate myself adequately and therefore hear the sound of the piano as best as possible, and finally I would want them to be comfortable, but always keeping an eye on the cost 😳.
Hi, honestly I have never tried the F-110. Regarding the acoustic piano, someone else will answer you, specifically Paolo or other technicians on the platform. For headphones, you need to go to at least 100 euros to start getting something of good quality. If the price is okay, I will then advise you on which models to opt for.
The F110, although being a fairly inexpensive instrument, is excellent. In my opinion, it sounds good, even if the sample still seems a bit too "packaged sound" to me. I prefer the FP 4 and the FP 7. Anyway, if you want to spend less, it's good. I would say that in the future you should move closer to the Foster, which is a great instrument. I hope you can have it followed also during the setup.
Hi, unfortunately today I learned that the Roland F110 digital piano is no longer available and I really don't know what or where to rent, especially since there are few shops in Bologna and not all of them offer rentals. However, I was having a second thought: since I would definitely keep a digital piano for at least 3 years (not having enough space and due to economic reasons, I cannot get an acoustic one for the moment), perhaps it is better for me to buy it rather than paying a rental fee of 30 euros per month. In this regard, I was reading that Simone also recommended ORLA digital pianos, an Italian company, for the quality of their keyboards. I went to their website and found some uprights that I saw advertised on the internet for 800 euros, such as the CDP 25 and the CDP 31 (perhaps the latter will cost more).
What do you think? As an economic investment it doesn't seem excessive to me and the quality is good. Simone
Are there any particular contraindications that you know of? The keyboard, as you said in one of your posts, is good
(you were talking about the clavinpiano) but maybe the sound is poor?
Hi, yes regarding the Orla I was talking about the Grand series. Regarding the CDP series, the keyboards don't blow me away. In particular, the CDP10 has a keyboard slightly inferior to the Casio CDP100 but a better sound. The Casio has a flat sound. The prince of digital pianos is ROLAND, there is little to say, but as we know, the price rises vertiginously. At this point, spending 800 euros for a used one from a shop? (they always give you a year of warranty) and you pay much less. Just a few days ago I went to Rome with a friend who had to buy a digital piano and he found a splendid FP-7 for 1000 euros. The best of those I tried inside that shop... They gave him a year of warranty, what more could he want. Every now and then he connects to the forum, I hope he will want to share his impressions of this instrument with us; in my opinion, it is magnificent both for sound and for keyboard. At most, you could also opt for installment payments. If you buy a used one from a shop, there is also this possibility: you can pay in installments on the used item, and it's as if you were spending the money of a digital piano rental, with the difference that in the end, the piano is yours...
Regarding headphones...
Even if I were to get the AKG K702 series (400 euros) or even better the Sennheiser HD 800 (1100 euros, you read that correctly), the sound would never be equal to that of an acoustic piano. But beware, this statement always depends on what we have in our hands. An 80GB sampled sound library against a terrible acoustic piano, I prefer digital!
Around that figure, they spoke very highly to me of the KRK KNS6400 if I'm not mistaken; I will try them tomorrow, then if you are interested I will let you know what impression they gave me.
Thanks for the answer, I will get to work on the Roland: here where I am they sell the F-110 for 990 euros new, I have to find the FP-7 but it seems to me that it is not equipped with a stand/furniture, right? Is not having the stand counterproductive for the stability of the instrument while playing?
Regarding the headphones ok let me know, I saw they are 99 euros + VAT so a good price.
Here we are, I tried the KRK headphones... They didn't impress me much. Very little bass, very dry sound, low volume (definitely due to high impedance). I find the AKG K141 better (it's just my opinion, obviously); they have a richer sound and full bass. My impression is that the KRKs are a bit cleaner but heavily sacrifice the bass. For mobile use, get a serious stand and it will be perfectly fine. The important thing is that the stand is not an X-type. Those are worthless and are only for stage use.
