agogics

It is everything concerning the expressiveness of a piece, expressive markings, sweetly, brilliantly, etc.

thanks, but so does the tempo of a piece correspond to the agogics?

Agogics concerns the management of time. E.g., accel., rit., a tempo, etc.

Frank wrote:

Agogics concerns the management of time. E.g., accel., rit., a tempo, etc.

and the indications

Prestissimo

Presto

Vivace

Allegro

Allegro moderato etc., are these also linked to the concept of tempo?

Fox wrote:

and the indications

Prestissimo

Presto

Vivace

Allegro

Allegro moderato etc., are these also linked to the concept of tempo?

of course they are!

done therefore:

agogics = rhythm

dynamics = sound volume

then there are those from certain reviewers (very funny) that concern expression

Con fuoco, Con anima, Misterioso quasi religioso, Morendo, Perdendosi . . .

I don't know if they serve to give indications for the performance or for the performer's facial expressions

the best are those from early '900 restorers... take a Casella... or a Brugnoli

thanks!

so it can be said that the tempo of a composition is its movement or speed which is expressed by its agogics, which can indeed be Con fuoco, allegro moderato, vivace, but also accelerando, rallentando etc. right?

antares86 wrote:

the best ones are those by first '900 reviewers... get a Casella... or a Brugnoli

ehhhh... in fact, the ones I wrote about were all Casella's

Fox wrote:

thanks!

so it can be said that the tempo of a composition is its movement or speed which is expressed by its agogics, which can indeed be Con fuoco, allegro moderato, vivace, but also accelerando, rallentando etc. right?

Yes but . . . this does not apply to the indication 'Con fuoco' which is linked more to expression than to rhythm.

[I wonder if one day we will find the indication A fuoco lento]

Slowly over a low flame

LucaCavaliere wrote:

Yes but . . . this doesn't apply to the indication 'Con fuoco' which is more related to expression than to rhythm.

[I wonder if one day we will find the indication 'A fuoco lento']

But I understood that agogics concerns everything, from expressiveness and therefore the expressive style to the tempo, like passionate allegro or delicate moderato etc.

below are examples of tempo markings

cuddling, expressive

breathless, panting, anxious, distressed
agile, lighthearted, light

agitated

arioso, like an aria, like a melody, in the manner of an aria, melodious

harmonious

barbaric

belligerent, aggressive

brilliant

brusquely

cantabile, singing, sung, like a song

capricious

colossal, tremendous, immense

comfortable, tempo comodo, moderate

with abandon, abandonedly, relaxed

with affection, with tenderness, with emotion, affectionate, affectionately

with joy, with gladness, cheerful, lively, vivace

with love, with love, loving, lovable

with soul, animated, lively, vivace

with bravura

with brio, with spirit, with vigor, brisk, vigorous

with warmth, with heat

with sweetness, sweet, very sweet

with sorrow, with grief, with sadness, mournful, painful

with emphasis, emphatic, marked (marc.), very marked, accented, accentuated

with expression, with much expression, with great expression, with grand expression, expressive (espr.)

with inspiration

with force, tasty, with cheerful emphasis

with fire, with pride, fiery, fiery, proud, ardent

with fury, furious

with joy, joyful, jubilant, gay

with grace, graceful

with breadth

with spirit, witty

with motion, moved, moving, fast

with passion, with utmost passion, passionate, passionate

with impetus, with enthusiasm

with spirit, with feeling

with tenderness, tenderly

with zeal, zealous, zealously

decisive

delicate, delicately

dramatic

energetic, strong
espansive, effusive
heroic

ferocious

festively, celebratory

fiercely, martial, marching, in the style of a march, march, in a marching manner, solemn, proud, march tempo, in the manner of a march

flebilie

cold, expressionless

fugato

funereal, funeral
gentle

giocoso, gay
grandiose

imperious, impetuous
improvised, as if improvised
irate, angry
lachrymose, sad
lamenting

light or very light, very light, lightly, extinguished, lifeless

free, freely (which indicate the actual absence of particular tempo markings)
lugubrious

majestic

magical

magnificent

melancholy, melancholic
mournful, sad
mysterious
mobile, flexible, changeable

moderate

morendo
narrative

nobly, noble, in a noble style
ostinate, persistent

speaking, parlando
pastoral, peaceful, simple

pathetic
thoughtful, meditative
heavy

weeping
pleasant
pitying

poetic, poetic discourse
polacca, polonaise tempo
pompous, ceremonious
precipitate
rapid

sudden
resolute
rough

saltando, sautillé, arpeggiating
unleashed

scherzando, playful, ridiculously
dry

simple

serious, serious
soave
dreaming

solemn, celebratory
sound
sighing
sustained

flat
spiccato, separated, distinct
forced

witty

noisy, loud, with force
tempo di valse

quickly, rapid
tranquillo, tranquilly, calm, peaceful
triumphant

fast, very fast
victorious
virtuoso
vivace
lively, lively

volante

Fox wrote:

But I understood that agogics concerns everything, from expressivity and therefore the expressive style of tempo, like passionate allegro or delicate moderate etc.

because a piece can also be brilliant but slow, or fast and solemn, resolute slow, etc., that's what I'm thinking, because expressivity is one thing and speed is another.. am I reasoning incorrectly? sorry if I ask so many questions, I am always like this even at school

Compliments on the list of indications ... but where did you find it???

Aggiungerei 'scazzato'

(to be prescribed at bar 300 of a piece 'Andante ma non troppo un poco fregandosene')

Anyway, jokes aside, the issue as you put it is no small matter

basically in the style of Scriabin XD