ATLAS and Eterna, what brands are they?

Eterna should be Yamaha. Atlas, if memory serves me correctly, I think I saw it once in a musical instrument shop. In both cases, however, I have never actually handled them, so I wouldn't know. Maybe some technician has had the chance to work on them and can give you better advice. Let's wait for their intervention.

Look, these are difficult pieces of advice. When you have to choose a piano, you need: time, curiosity, and a bit of

knowledge of mechanics. First of all, you must understand which is the best piano according to your taste and your current abilities**, the best ones have unreachable costs; for all others, you must be careful because they often make you try new or "bargain" pianos that are out of tune and not well-regulated. For tuning, a bit of an ear and an app to check the frequency of A will solve the problem. Regarding mechanics, unfortunately, the materials used and the regulation of the instrument have an influence (there was a guy on the forum who had problems with a Feurich because of too much humidity from the shop to his house; now he has resolved it). If I were you, I would look for piano teachers and in the meantime ask for the contact information of a tuner, as that is always useful! Maybe you will come across some student who recently stopped playing and wants to give away their instrument. That said, I do not know Eterna and I know that on Atalas he has had little success in the past. I'll

give you one last reflection: there is Samick, which makes uprights with good mechanics; however, the sound turns out to be very bright and often is not liked. But for studying, it's perfectly fine.

**you should try, for example, excellent uprights (Bechstein, Schimmel, Steinway, and many others)

I tried them, they had mechanical problems, a dry sound without harmonic overtones, and the action was excessively heavy...

Pensavo fosse solo un mio pensiero ma quando ho provato pianoforti messi a nuovo Yamaha e bechstein ho subito ritirato il pensiero di aver sbagliato

I thought it was just my opinion, but when I tried refurbished Yamaha and Bechstein pianos, I immediately reconsidered my thought that I was wrong.

That is why I asked, to know a little bit more out of personal interest.

I don't understand how instruments like that can be sold....

Thank you very much for the advice, I will keep them in mind in the future when I have to change pianos ☺️

ahaha yeah look I won't mention names but about 4 years ago I went to a well-known shop in Rome where, by the way, I bought my first piano; I was appalled by what they offered me. To their credit, I must say that I first asked for pianos that could be rented, but I assure you that after that visit I became a defender of digital pianos. As for the mechanics, I can tell you that in another shop, not this one, I happened to try 3 or 4 pianos in the showroom sold as new with keys that stayed pressed down. The problem is that those who buy often only know how to play a few arpeggios...

Incredible ...there are people who are truly unprofessional

As if it were just any random part of the piano, you go and spend so much money only to find someone who cheats you!

You need to know the mechanics well and, as you said, not just play a few arpeggios

Eterna is a sub-brand of Yamaha, produced like Yamaha but with cheaper materials. From 1995 to 2000 it was produced in China (those are still of lower quality, which can be recognized by the "C" at the end of the number).

Atlas is a Japanese brand with quality pianos until 1987 (also known as Tadashi).

So I remembered correctly...

I don't trust these brands much... they aren't very well known and few people know them, so if I ever had to sell it, nobody would buy it from me

I'll play it safe :,)

Hi, I have a friend who would like to sell me an Atlas piano, but being new to this world I don't really know what to do, I don't quite understand if it is a great piano...., anyway I have been taking lessons for a few months, but it is an instrument I have always dreamed of learning to play. Is it worth spending a bit more to have a better brand?

In the end, Claudia, did you get it or not? From what I understand, however, it is Chinese, not Japanese.

Thank you

I remember trying several ATLAS models years ago at the CIAMPI company in Rome and being very satisfied... naturally relative to the price ratio. Now we have to see over time... I don't know the other brand.

Your friends have already given you good advice. It is evident that with uprights there is a leap in quality among the brands mentioned by Andry, it depends on the budget allocated. Even a rental to start would be fine, while waiting to understand which type of instrument might suit your needs. Also watch my video tutorial on buying a used piano. Happy practicing