Beethoven - Egmont, Overture, Op 84 - Kertész

I agree on the tremendous sound. Regarding the speed in the central section, however, I must say that it is the one I prefer.

As for the clear difference that, as you noted, is rarely heard between f and ff, perhaps it depends on the fact that between f and ff there isn't much difference for many conductors

LucaCavaliere wrote:

maybe it depends on the fact that between f and ff for many conductors there isn't much difference

Since it is achievable, there evidently is a difference; otherwise Beethoven (but also others) would not bother.

AntonioArso wrote:

Since it is achievable, there evidently exists a difference; otherwise Beethoven (and others too) would not bother.

I agree.

But I said that for many conductors (and for me too) there isn't much of a difference. I did not write that there is no difference at all.

Then, as we know, some take pleasure in highlighting dynamic contrasts, others aim for homogeneity . . . all within the limits of what the score allows. This should be taken for granted.

Of course LucaCavaliere, I was referring to the conductors, not to you.

Anyway, Beethoven is the last one who aimed for dynamic homogeneity... if it were Mendelssohn, still... still

LucaCavaliere wrote:

i agree on the tremendous sound. Regarding the speed in the central section, however, I must say that it is the one I prefer. [...]

I also agree on the speed in the central section. If it seems too slow to us, it is because many conductors (even great ones) make it a little too fast.

Ciao

Gino

AntonioArso wrote:

Anyway, Beethoven is the last one who aimed for dynamic homogeneity... whether it was Mendelssohn, still ... still

Ah, I fully agree.