Björk, this other unknown... always for me.
Can someone talk about her?
In the meantime, I'll read the wiki
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Björk, this other unknown... always for me.
Can someone talk about her?
In the meantime, I'll read the wiki
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another :-) eh... it's a world...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26sP2WsA5cY
video by Michel Gondry for one of the most famous (and most remixed) pieces by Bjork
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This was the opening song of the Sydney Olympics
the whole piece contains only vocalizations, you can clearly hear the female choir, but the drums are human beatbox, and even the "bass" is a filtered voice sound. The entire album from which the piece is taken, Medúlla, is centered on the human voice, especially on beatboxing
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And she was the protagonist of a Von Trier film (The Idiots, Dogville, etc.), the Danish director who was once a supporter of cinematic Dogma.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53vr9EiOH7g.
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*cinematic
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jack wrote:Björk, this other unknown... always for me.
Can anyone talk about her?
In the meantime, I'm reading the wiki
Hi,
listen to and watch this
A my modest opinion, this is contemporary art.
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alberto
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Who knows if Björk is one of those who goes to Darmstadt... a well-known place frequented by REAL composers.
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Hello,
anyway it is a woman .
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alberto
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alberto1968 wrote:ad ogni modo si tratta di una donna .
Of course, but I was referring to the figure of the composer in a broad sense. It seems that if you don't frequent a very specific series of centers that exist solely to keep the memory alive, you cannot be classified as a TRUE composer. In fact, this [work] by Björk is one of the avant-gardes of this decade.
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Videoclip wrote:Of course, but I was referring to the figure of the composer in a broad sense. It seems that if you don't frequent a very specific series of centers that exist only to keep the memory alive, you cannot be classified as a TRUE composer. In fact, this [style] of Björk is one of the avant-gardes of this decade.
Björk is not a composer; she would not qualify herself as a composer
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thallo wrote:Bjork is not a composer, she would not qualify as a composer
Don't worry Thallo, it was a veiled sarcasm referring to a comment I made a few days ago ...
http://www.pianoconcerto.it/forum/index.php?/topic/6064-gustav-mahler-quartetto-in-la-minore-per-pianoforte-ed-archi/page-2&do=findComment&comment=43227
I can, however, add that even if Björk has never been to Darmstadt, certainly 90%, or let's say a good 80% of those who go to Darmstadt listen to Björk a lot, and some consider her a point of reference, perhaps alongside Mark Andre, imagine that ... (besides, where did it say Darmstadt = true composer? I am still asking myself that ... it is something I don't really think ... but you know, it's easy to be misunderstood).
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My limited knowledge of Björk is linked to one of her videos, which many years ago (certainly more than twenty), for a certain period, used to be played (so to speak) at the bar where I would eat a sandwich with my colleagues during my lunch break.
i am reposting it
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And it's just that, and I am writing this not necessarily for Videoclip but for all those who feel like reading, it always makes sense to remember how in "non-classical" music the author or the singer are just one of the various authorial figures present. Behind Bjork there are hordes of incredibly cool producers and DJs, that's all
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Finally I will have a little time to listen to some good and healthy music.
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Alex Ross, in The Rest Is Noise - Listening to the Twentieth Century (Bompiani, 2007):
"Björk is a modern pop artist deeply influenced by the 20th-century classical repertoire that she assimilated while studying at the conservatory (Stockhausen's electronic pieces, Messiaen's organ music, Arvo Pärt's spiritualist minimalism). If one listens with eyes closed to An Echo, A Stain, in which the singer declaims fragmented melodies over a soft cluster of choral voices, and then moves to Osvaldo Golijov's Ayre, a cycle of lyrics in which pulsing dance rhythms support multi-ethnic songs of Moorish Spain, one might conclude that Björk's composition is classical. One of the possible destinations for 21st-century music is a 'great final fusion': evolved pop artists and extroverted composers speaking roughly the same language."
P.S. excuse the diaeresis (missing).
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RedScharlach wrote:However, I can add that even if Björk has never been to Darmstadt, certainly 90%, or let's say a good 80% of those who go to Darmstadt listen to a lot of Björk, and some consider her a point of reference, perhaps alongside Mark Andre, imagine that... (then again, where it said Darmstadt = composer, I am still asking myself... it is something I don't really think... but you know, it's easy to be misunderstood).
Better for you RedSchalach, also because reading your posts one doesn't understand all this interest towards the avant-garde. I mean, in a section that is a couple of years old, you have never proposed Björk, who is the reference (so you tell me) for 80/90% of the young composers who go to the places you listed. I might have misunderstood, but there are places - we both know - more suited to commemorating than to revolutionizing. Never a mention, never a reference to Björk? It seems strange to me. Only references to the usual traditionalists.
thallo wrote:Bjork is not a composer, she would not qualify as a composer
Exactly Thallo, as CromaDiBrera explains well via Ross, are we sure that this figure of the "pure" composer is so current?
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Forgive me, but yours seems to me a truly sterile criticism; it seems to me that you ask questions having, in reality, already the answers
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I don't know about Mahler, there are dead ends and it is good for young people to know that. It is one thing to be nostalgic and aware, and another thing to delude oneself into thinking that by following certain paths .... one arrives who knows where.
There are composers, great, immense ones, who are now fish out of water. Studying them deeply is as beneficial as studying Bach... but then the musical world is elsewhere and Björk is a living demonstration of this.
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For what it's worth, I fully agree with Videoclip.
Here we are still stuck with the idea that "The Composer" (bow down, please) is a serious and suffering fool, with disheveled hair and eyes lost in space, locked in some closet scribbling a few notes on the staff, while outside the storm torments an unsteady shutter left ajar on the pomegranate "that the little hand touches" etc. etc. (obviously naked, of course), while he longs for his beloved and dreams of who knows what orchestral furies that should leave all of humanity stunned and make them cry out at the miracle of the "new Beethoven"...! "Behold The Genieeee...!"
In practice, "The Composer" would be a huge nutcase (mentally and otherwise), excuse the aphorism. A guy like Adrea, in short (for those who remember him). This is in Italy, while the Boston Conservatory demands that their gentlemen musicians and composers also know how to dance (!) You don't believe it...? Visit the site: https://bostonconservatory.berklee.edu/.
P.S. Long live Bjork.