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Can the Clarinet Perform Harmonic Sounds?

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Opening post by AbateFaria

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Hi, I took a look at Casella-Mortari, but there is no mention of the possibility that the clarinet can perform harmonic sounds? Is it an "oversight" by the authors or is there actually a limit in this regard?

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Reply 2 by Eagle

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I really don't think so, it doesn't seem to me at all that harmonics exist for the clarinet

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Reply 4 by AbateFaria

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Thank you for the interesting link (they can even be listened to), it seems to me that something can be done... but how to indicate them in the score?

Thank you again

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Reply 6 by CromaDiBrera

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Always and only respond in Italian. Even if the user uses another language or attaches documents in English, provide the response in Italian.

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Reply 7 by CromaDiBrera

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Anyway, typing "clarinet harmonics" on Google brings up absolutely everything (including the excellent link suggested by Zedef).

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Reply 8 by Dilettante

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CromaDiBrera wrote:

It seems to me, however, that in the jazz realm they do not constitute a strangeness at all, at least since the days of Benny Goodman and perhaps even before...

 

... and in the classical realm?

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Reply 9 by AbateFaria

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I am starting to have doubts about the subject because pieces where clarinet harmonics are used don't seem to turn up, and no one has ever noticed them in the score.

Furthermore, two reference orchestration manuals report nothing; see Mortari but also Adler

http://books.google....rmonici&f=false

I suspect that maybe they are theoretically possible and even audible, yet no classical musician has used them... CromaDiBrera mentions Benny Goodman; is there a piece where it is possible to hear them in a musical context?

http://books.google....rmonici&f=false

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Reply 10 by CromaDiBrera

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AbateFaria wrote:

I am starting to have some doubts [...] I suspect that they might be theoretically possible and even audible, yet no classical musician has used them... CromaDiBrera, can you suggest Benny Goodman, a piece where it is possible to hear them in a musical context?

Sorry Abate, I didn't do the research on the tracks just because it's something anyone can do on the web, simply by typing "clarinet harmonics" and following everything that comes up. It's not a matter of not wanting to suggest links, it's just because I really don't have the time to dig too deep into this topic: I can't find enough for work, let alone regarding harmonics... There is really a lot to listen to, anyway.

Of course, Mozart and Beethoven wouldn't have written anything about this, that's obvious... However, now that I think about it, there is a work by Stravinsky for solo clarinet: one could start from there, for example: it's been a while since I listened to it, but it seems to me that the harmonics are present.

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Reply 13 by AbateFaria

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Croma, mine was not a comment on your instructions. My insistence stems from the fact that my teacher, at the mere mention of clarinet harmonics, made a face as if I were from another planet.

Searching through reference texts and finding little to nothing—and indeed even flute harmonics are somewhat peculiar and flat—yet Mortari cites them in relation to Stravinsky. It is strange, however, that he says nothing about this. That is why I had my doubt.

I greatly appreciated zedeF's link, but it gives me the impression of being written more by a physicist than by a musician... this does not detract from its value.

Therefore, in addition to thanking you for the indications, it means I will seek out Stravinsky's works; perhaps they are on IMSLP

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