Carl Nielsen, 'mignon'

Indeed, without reading the message I had gone straight to the video (which I often do) and I had also felt this suffering of the dynamics.

What can I say? You can feel that it's not your fault, and in a certain sense, I already knew it wasn't your fault. Unfortunately, all libraries suffer from a lack of dynamics. To overcome this problem, you should move to 24-bit samples, which have much more dynamic depth than 16-bit ones.

Obviously, however, they require an excellent computer because they are very heavy to play at runtime.

There are also other lightweight 16-bit libraries that sound quite good and render dynamics well. I feel comfortable with the Galaxy II Steinway or always from the Galaxy II - Vintage D. Good dynamics, beautiful sound, great variety of possible configurations. In short, a truly beautiful library. Try it and let me know. In any case, I am attaching a video I made that compares many piano libraries. I played a part of Liszt's Consolation No. 3 in MIDI and I edited and created the bounce from several libraries. This way, it is possible to make a comparison.

Regards

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jj_9LHzvmFg

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ah thanks Simone, in fact I've been looking for this video comparison of yours for a few weeks (I arrived here via your YouTube video). You know what, though, I think I explained myself a bit poorly; in fact, I don't think the sound library is the problem, but rather the controller I'm using, an M-audio Keystation pro 88. I say this because I used to use an Alesis workstation with weighted keys (I don't remember the model, it had controls like a 60s radio and had a high-quality keyboard) and with the Alesis, the dynamics were much better; unfortunately, I had to resell it.

I have indeed tried the Galaxy libraries and I would swear that the IS Baby Grand library is actually quite a bit more dynamic; the Galaxy ones seemed incredibly flat dynamically to me, but I am sure that the keyboard you use has a lot to do with the result, I'll watch the video so I can see if I can afford the same one.....bye and thanks (ps. sorry if I posted something similar in two parts of the site, let's stay here if you want)

PS. moreover I realized that the audio in my video is compressed at 96 kb mp3, I only noticed it yesterday, so I don't think the audio does justice to this library...

tu che preferisci per praticare? (non registrare) a casa se non puoi suonare il piano per ovvi motivi (vicini,ecc), preferisci un digital piano o libreria di suoni?

ah, I remember trying the Fazioli from Imperfect Samples.... dynamics are quite flat, the Baby Grand is the best piano they have, even if it's not tuned very well, and even their Steinway isn't quite to my taste, although it's better than the Fazioli. I am always speaking in terms of dynamics

I would answer that I prefer libraries, but then I feel like saying it depends on the author. In general, though, libraries. In the studio, I feel comfortable with the Galaxy Vintage D because it is light, has no lag, and I work well with it. It's true that dynamics depend on the keyboard, but also on the resolution. As I already mentioned to you, all digital libraries are flat. Dynamic flatness depends on various variables; one of these is that there isn't the mixture of harmonics as occurs in acoustic pianos, among many others. In any case, I think you should start orienting yourself towards 24-bit libraries to hear the real difference. Try East West Quantum Leap pianos with the 24-bit samples of the Bösendorfer... But in general, the whole piano series is very beautiful.

thanks, what controller keyboard do you use for the libraries?

ok I understand, it's a professional secret...

Oops sorry, I missed the message, I hadn't read it. Mine is a crappy keyboard that I hope will be changed now. It's a Yamaha P95. Keep in mind, however, that despite the poor dynamics of the keyboard, you can still fix many little things in post-production. Anyway, I suffer so much from the expressive shortcomings of the keyboard to the point that sometimes I just pack it all in because I lose the desire to play. In terms of dynamics, the best library I have used, which I have below (650 euros), is Pianos by East West; with 24-bit samples, you have incredible dynamics and sounds that last until extinction. Strong bass notes at 24-bit last almost a minute!! And there are as many as 18 recorded dynamic levels for timbre changes. I assure you that what comes out is a real piano.

Example:

Casella Toccata - Bechstein

TheSimon wrote:

Anyway, I suffer so much from the expressive shortcomings of the keyboard to the point that sometimes I just pack it all in because I lose the desire to play.

you're telling me, and it's really frustrating to play on a real piano once a week and for the rest of the month with these digital libraries.... well, there's no point complaining, years ago it was even worse.

I have 3 Eastwest libraries, Goliath and Symphony Orchestra Gold; I should have also gotten the Pianos Gold, but I didn't, and anyway I believe the Gold version is the 16-bit version. In any case, I would also have to change my computer, which I can't do for now..aaaargh....

anyway, I'll keep an eye on it. Have you tried the Imperial Grand from Vienna VSL? It also costs about 600 euros but it says it has as many as 100 velocity levels; I tried it briefly on this site http://www.try-sound.com/

in practice, you register for a 'session' (free) and for 15 minutes they let you try the library of your choice from a server or something like that. The latency is abominable, but at least it gives you an idea, in case you want to try out a library

I had already heard it. Excellent and many samplings. 1200 per note. It serves to always give a different impression even though you are always pressing the same key. The levels are 100 but divided between pedal UP, pedal DOWN, and sympathetic resonance. Anyway, they are still very many. The only thing I don't like is that the library is of an Imperial and it doesn't blow my mind. If it had been a Steinway, I would have surely bought it.