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Choosing a digital piano for studio use

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Opening post by MicheleTs

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Hello everyone.

I am here to humbly ask for advice regarding the choice of a digital piano for study.

First, I should specify that this piano would be mainly for my 10-year-old daughter who would like to start studying the piano (middle school music program). And then, I have been away from the piano for almost 20 years and I wouldn't mind at all getting my hands back on the instrument.

Moving on to the choice. Currently, I would opt for a good digital piano mainly for logistical reasons (bringing an acoustic piano to my house is a 'mission impossible' feat, in the words of a specialized mover. Since we have yet to start, I want to carefully evaluate the possibilities and the commitment my daughter will put in...).

In Trieste, we only have 2 music stores. One offered me an instrument of an undefined brand for €450 without trying it. I am not convinced.

The second one let me try a couple of instruments they had in the shop: Yamaha Clavinova 535, 575, 585 and Casio Privia PX860. The former from €1300 upwards, the latter just under €900. Well, I must say that they all truly surprised me. I find them all to be excellent instruments. Now, let's talk about the drawbacks. I warmed up my fingers on the PX860 and I liked it very much, more than the 535. But I want to ask you something. Is it possible that a lower-end Casio could have a 'faster' keyboard (on the 535, for example, keys played again before halfway through the return stroke, such as trills, do not sound, whereas on the Casio they do, or were my fingers just still slow at the beginning?). Among the instruments tested, the ones I appreciated most were the 585 (out of budget but I could finance it) and indeed the PX860. And this caught me a bit off guard, because there is more than a €1000 difference.

Do you have any advice to give me for guidance? I would like to go to Gorizia, a nearby city, because there is a large piano store and I would like to arrive with a few more ideas.

Oh, and finally, I also have the possibility of purchasing a Celviano AP33 from a private seller for €500, negotiable. I haven't tried it yet. What would I lose with this last one compared to the current Privia?

Sorry if I went on too long; unfortunately, I don't have the gift of brevity, but I guarantee you that I have other questions and I cut them short so as not to bore you too much...

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Reply 2 by Thesimon

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Lately Casio has been making better keyboards than other digital pianos in the same price range. Anyway, do a search on the forum. This is an old and worn-out topic.

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Reply 3 by MicheleTs

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Yes, you are right that it is a worn-out and repetitive topic on the forum and I have read all 3D [threads]. However, they are dated, several years old. I haven't found any post discussing these pianos that I listed (unfortunately not even about the Celviano AP33).

Perhaps it would be useful to put a comparison table of the most interesting digital pianos somewhere on the forum, with reference to production years and innovations compared to previous production.

Of course, the piano must then be tested, but at least it clears up ideas during research. I am having an enormous hard time understanding for individual models, especially regarding used ones, what is lost compared to a new model. In my case, if what I lose are sound effects, wireless controls, recording pieces, etc... I don't care at all, quite the opposite. It must sound like a piano and that's it. The fewer bells and whistles it has around it, the better...

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Reply 4 by Thesimon

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Look at it from a sound perspective, there isn't a big difference from a year ago to today on the entry-level models. The differences are in the keyboards. Since I personally tried Casio, I no longer like Yamaha, which were my favorites. Then, certainly, if we start looking at more expensive models, you can find all kinds. Among the models you have tried, I tell you that I didn't like the Clavinovas. The keyboard really feels fake, so I would opt for the Casio. Alternatively, you should consider Roland with the FP7, which is a bit of an outdated model but has a good keyboard. Obviously, I am always speaking according to my own tastes. The best thing is what you are already doing: going into stores and trying them out.

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Reply 5 by MicheleTs

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Thank you very much. In the meantime, I already have one more idea. Unfortunately, I am without a car right now and have to wait a few days to move cities.

It feels very strange to me, but yours seems like a confirmation of my feelings, in the sense that I prefer the mid-range Casio version (also for economic reasons) compared to the Yamaha Clavinova which is the "queen" version. For now, I am leaning towards the Privia PX860. I will look for the Roland you suggested and we'll see.

In the meantime, even though I am stuck because I have no transport, I called the shop and they told me they would be happy to let me try the Casio GP300. They say it is excellent...

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Reply 8 by MicheleTs

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I might think about getting the Privia to start. That way, it could work for me and my daughter for about a year. And if things go well, then I'll already be more than €1000 closer to an acoustic piano or the GP300 or whatever new model comes out.

Does anyone know what the resale value of a digital piano like the Privia PX860 might be like? In the sense of how much it might depreciate and how interesting it might be to find it used (rummaging through used ads, I saw that the trend seems to be strong depreciation for instruments over €1000. It gives me the feeling of a price leveling around 600-700 euros, and within this window, one gets the best possible instrument at the moment. Not that it's fair, but it seems to me that this is the trend).

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Reply 9 by Thesimon

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The price of used goods obviously depends on market demand. Casio has only recently been establishing itself in the digital piano market, and changing people's perception—that they were only capable of building good budget-range watches rather than digital musical instruments—takes time. They must continue working as they are doing now; only with time, through positive expert reviews, will they begin to seriously establish themselves in the digital piano market. This reflection puts me in a position to say that probably, at the current state, Casio will likely depreciate slightly more compared to Yamaha, Roland, Kawai, etc. If you are thinking in terms of resale, then perhaps it is better to opt for Yamaha or Kawai, but since you are in a low price range anyway, in my opinion, there is no sense in making this choice just to resell it later for 100 euros more; therefore, if you like the Casio more, I would go with the Casio.

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