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De facto couples, is now the time?

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Reply 21 by Ronin

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I don't have a degree in social services, as I seem to understand you don't even have one yourself

and besides, attending someone with a sociology degree confers an "ad honorem" degree upon you; at that point, I could also say I have not one, but multiple degrees. Anyway, I don't think it is necessary to have a degree in sociology to assert my opinion, which is that many supporters of the Cirinnà bill don't actually care about the hardships of children, and if I wasn't clear, I am referring to the parliamentarians who for years have been taking votes from Arci-gay but then do nothing in practice. Also, what I repeat to you from my first intervention is that we must separate the right of a gay couple to be recognized as such with relative benefits, including reversibility, from the issue of children, also because as the stepchild [adoption] is currently conceived, what prevents a gay couple from paying someone to get pregnant and then applying for adoption as the child of one of the two? Furthermore, if we are talking about two women, the matter would be even simpler. I have expressed my opinion and sincerely, I am tired of this mentality according to which anyone who is not on your side is homophobic or ignorant. Exchanging opinions in a forum means putting ourselves on the same level and comparing my ideas with yours; I have respected you and it doesn't seem to me that I asked you for any educational qualifications (parenthetically, I do not believe that being a graduate can make me more right or wrong)

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Reply 22 by danielescarpetti

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my opinion being that many supporters of the Cirinnà bill don't actually care at all about the hardships faced by children, and if I wasn't clear, I am referring to the parliamentarians who for years have been getting votes from Arci-gay but in concrete terms do nothing. then, as I repeat from my first intervention, one must separate the right of a gay couple to be recognized as such with relative benefits including reversibility from the issue of children, also because as the stepchild issue is conceived, what prevents a gay couple from paying someone to get pregnant and then asking for adoption as the child of one of the two? then if we are talking about two women, the matter would be even simpler.

It is right to remember, however, that the Cirinnà bill does not modify the current text on assisted reproduction at all, which remains as it is, but is limited to establishing that the children of the biological parent who already live within a same-sex family, in the event of their death, can be adopted by the other member of the couple and, therefore, ultimately, can remain within the four walls in which they have grown up until that moment and close to the person who has loved and cared for them, sharing this burden and honor with the biological parent. And this rather than being handed over to relatives more or less near or far, with whom one does not know well what their relationship or desire to be there might be.

And at this point, it would therefore be legitimate to ask oneself whose heart these children's futures truly matter to!!!

It is also right to remember that those parliamentarians you refer to may perhaps also be voted for by Arci-gay but mostly, also by many people who are not part of Arci-gay but who are absolutely in tune with all these issues... such as... me!

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