Dedication variations WoO 45

Terenzio wrote:

Can anyone tell me what the real name of the Princess Lichnowsky in question was?

... me, who knew her personally, can say ...

Just kidding, obviously!

Could this double "identity" be the result of translations that have been "passed down" over time?

Christiane is in German, Christine in English. To whom was it dedicated?

I don't know if the common sense answer is "sensible"

The reliable reference is always the BH; (but also my site which borrows news from the BH) even if in the first edition the name is not reported, but only the noble title (just as in one of the first editions I have at home): Artaria, CATALOGO 710, Sammlung Helferich, Helferich 22,1b:

XII Variation pour clavecin ou piano-forte avec un violoncelle obligé, sur un thème..... etc.....

Composed and Dedicated to Her Highness Madame the Princess of Lichnowsky, née Countess of Thun

who is then

Maria Christiane Fürstin von Lichnowsky, geb. Gräfin Thun-Hohenstein

wife of Lichnowsky

http://www.beethoven-haus-bonn.de/sixcms/detail.php?id=15242&template=dokseite_digitales_archiv_en&_eid=1510&_ug=Other%20orchestral%20works&werkid=43&dokid=i3110&opus=op.%2043&mid=Works%20by%20Ludwig%20van%20Beethoven&sucheinstieg=&seite=1

so

The Kinsy-Halm:

Wo0 45 Twelve Variations (G major) on a theme from Handel's Oratorio ..Judas Maccabaeus for piano and cello

dedicated to Princess Christiane v. Lichnowsky (GA: No. 110 = Series 13 No. 6)

Period of composition: presumably 1796, in the year of composition of the Cello Sonatas Opus 5. Further details are unknown; drafts are not proven by Nottebohm. - The theme of the variations is the well-known victory chorus "See the conqu'ring hero comes" ("Seht, er kommt mit Preis gekrönt"), which Handel subsequently took from his Oratorio "Joshua" (1747) into the score of "Judas Maccabaeus," which had already been composed in 1746.

Autograph: Vienna, Gesellschaft der Musikfreunde (gift from Aloys Fuchs). Heading: "Variations par j l. v. Beethoven15 12-line sheets (30 pages) in landscape format. Pagination handwritten, odd-numbered pages in the lower right corner, even-numbered pages in the lower left corner.

Cf. p. 86 in Mandyczewski's »Zusatzband zur Geschichte der G. d. M.«; No. 603 in the Guide to the Centenary Exhibition Vienna 1927.

Announcement of publication: not determined. According to Artaria's VN. 710, probably published in the summer or autumn of 1797, as the Artaria publisher items with numbers 703-705, 708 and 709, 713, 715-717, 719 and 720 are all in the Wiener Zeitung No. 80 of the 4th.

So Christiane (even if Christine is passed down by many sources; on my site I had left Christine because Biamonti reports it from one of the last Bruers catalogs, in others the first name is omitted).

In practice, I made a correction to Biamonti; I would say that Christiane is more correct.

But how beautiful that they check these trivial details! Well done, well done indeed!

Friendship,

Problem solved. Go for Christiane, I am correcting my website page.

http://www.flaminioonline.it/Guide/Beethoven/Beethoven-VariazioniWoO45.html

Thanks Armando

it's true Armando: goat hairs.

Who knows why... this scene came to mind

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A matter I find interesting is a nice clarification from Luigi regarding the Lied “Sehnsucht nach dem Rhein” (Nostalgia for the Rhine) Hess Anhang 45.

That is, a correction that will be included in the next edition of the Hess catalogue:

I saw the new article on the Lied Hess A. 45 and just wanted to make a correction to the first few lines: Here is Biamonti's description, added note II: Hess Anhang 45 - Der Wunsch (the desire), for voice and piano. H. (A) 43 - L. V, page 349. Sehnsucht nach dem Rhein (Nostalgia for the Rhine), for voice and piano. Hess Anhang 45 - L., V, page 349. According to a communication from Fritz Kaiser to Hess, the music would be identical to that of the song Opus 75 number 1, with different text. Published in Bonn, Dunst, 1844. The date is not 1844 but 1839, confirmed both by BH and by the dedication of the collection (in 6 volumes and Beethoven's is in the sixth volume) contained precisely in the sixth volume to Elizabeth, Princess of Prussia. In fact, she only became Queen of Prussia in 1840, so the date is before 1840. In fact, I will go further: it is from the autumn of 1839 and this music by Beethoven was announced as early as June 1839. I therefore think that Hess does not report the date correctly, given that it was not easy to trace (and given the rarity of the edition)!

Luigi BELLOFATTO

You can find the complete research here: http://www.lvbeethoven.it/Articoli/Sehnsucht_nach_dem_Rehin/Beethoven-Articoli-Sehnsucht_nach_dem_Rehin.html it is interesting because it truly redefines a small detail, which will then be corrected. In reality, this issue also has its own small validity, dear Terenzio and dear all. It shows us how many details are already correct and to what level of detail one can reach. And it is certainly a reason for pride!

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