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Opening post by maxsbk

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Hello,

i find the architecture of this forum convoluted and unintuitive. For example, I find it difficult to search for my topics and their potential replies. In the vast sea of discussions, there is no chronological immediacy; the old and the new are equal, or rather, upon opening the forum, there is no evidence of the latest ongoing discussions; one always has to pre-emptively navigate through the tangled "branches" of the topics.

On the contrary, I would like to have a leaner interface, at least for the initial approach, with any replies to my posts immediately visible and only in the background any potential in-depth themes.

Obviously, this is just an idea; certainly other proposals could be equally positive if they were functional in making "entry" into the forum's leitmotif more immediate.

Regards

Thank you

Massimiliano

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Reply 2 by Rotore

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Some tips

Click on your name in the top right, after logging in:

- Go to Settings --> notification options

- My profile --> Discussions

In general, on topics you can use the Follow this topic function (entering a topic, button in top right)

Additionally, in "New content" you see all the latest replies to all topics

http://www.pianoconc...arch_app=forums

In general, remembering which section the topic was created in... doesn't hurt

Maybe the admin will be more precise

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Reply 3 by Dino

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I found the little window on the forum home page convenient, which gave the list of the latest new discussions opened... one could immediately see the new ongoing conversations

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Reply 4 by maxsbk

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Rotore wrote:

Some tips

Click on your name in the top right, after logging in:

- Go to Settings --> notification options

- My profile --> Discussions

In general, on topics you can use the Follow this topic function (entering a topic, button in the top right)

Additionally, in "New content" you see all the latest replies to all topics

http://www.pianoconc...arch_app=forums

In general, remembering which section the topic was created in... doesn't hurt

Maybe the admin will be more precise

... and does that seem like an intuitive and immediate method to you?? besides, settings are in English! it feels like configuring Windows instead of having a little chat on a forum.. bah

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Reply 5 by Rotore

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Dino wrote:

I found the little window on the forum home page convenient, which gave the list of the latest new discussions opened... one could immediately see the new ongoing conversations

I agree

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Reply 6 by Rotore

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maxsbk wrote:

... and it seems like an intuitive and immediate method to you?? moreover, settings in English! it feels like configuring Windows instead of having a quick chat on a forum.. bah

I don't know, but "View new content" which you find under 'other' on the right in the forum home page ... seems very easy to me. Clearly, I think it's subjective.

Even pressing the "Follow this topic" button on topics of interest seems very simple to me, regardless of the language, once someone knows what is needed... just press it.

On the profile, however, I can understand, it was a bit much...

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Reply 7 by Tiger

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I think it is a matter of practice; I remember that at the beginning the forum seemed immense to me... nowadays I always use the same functions and find what I need quite easily.

There is also the search function, which was not mentioned

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Reply 8 by Frank

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maxsbk wrote:

upon opening the forum there is no highlight of the latest ongoing discussions,

In fact, there was until recently. Personally speaking, I make a lot of use of "View new content"

maxsbk wrote:

highlight any replies to my posts

I've never tried it, but in fact the "follow this topic" function described by Rotore seems to be exactly what you need

maxsbk wrote:

Obviously it is just an idea

I think everything can be improved; perhaps you could start using these 2 tools (if you have trouble finding them, give me a shout or there is also the chat)

- "View new content"

- "follow this topic"

parallel to that, you could make some concrete proposals in addition.

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Reply 10 by Thesimon

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@maxsbk

Honestly, this is the first time I have ever heard that this forum is difficult to consult. In the two years we have been open, at least no one has ever complained, and I chose this CMS (paid) over other free ones like phpBB precisely because it is easier to use. With only 6 active messages, it seems obvious to me to say that you won't find it easy to use a community. Even when I joined other communities, I found them complex initially until I got the hang of it by exploring.

Furthermore, I did not particularly appreciate the tone you use to express your discomfort, and I would like to remind you that everything here is free; therefore, you are using a service (which we pay for) that is provided to you free of charge. We are willing to receive criticism because it is part of the game, and we have always welcomed user requests—everyone here can testify to that—but yours seems to me to be presented in a tone that is almost offensive, as if you were the owner of another forum coming to troll this one out of spite, even going so far as to open a topic. If your report was directed at me, as it seemed to be, you could have easily sent me a private message and I would have given you all the information you need. Personally, if I go to someone else's house to eat, I don't start saying "the table is poorly set and the food is disgusting!", or if I really can't help myself, I point it out with different terms and tones, such as "I prefer to eat the main course because I don't eat truffle in pasta," obviously avoiding future invitations. Therefore, if the discomfort is unbearable for you, I remind you that there are many other open forums on the internet that might be able to comply with and better reflect your ideas of "ease of use"; I do not follow a "competition" line—talking about art should be above such things.

In any case, it seems to me that others have already provided you with the appropriate tools to solve your problems, but even in the face of their availability, it seems to me that you still had something to say...

@dino

Regarding the small windows on the right, I need to find the time to update the platform and then put them back. Please be patient, I am in the middle of my thesis.

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Reply 11 by maxsbk

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First of all, I apologize if my observations may have offended anyone in some way, but I assure you that was not their purpose. Also because, as you rightly pointed out to me, "there are many other open forums on the internet..." and therefore it would have been easier for me to choose others rather than spending time writing what I have said.

Anyway, since I am here, I would instead like to make some considerations regarding your response, which seemed to me truly excessively sharp and the result of excessive resentment since, in my opinion, I do not find any offensive sentence in my observation.

In any case:

1) the fact that the forum is not paid is not an answer to someone who is spontaneously suggesting some of their difficulties to you; on the contrary, it should still be of interest to you if you want the site to grow;

2) the very fact that I have only posted 6 messages is an indication that the difficulties I encountered depend precisely on the immediacy and the ability of the site to "attract" a new visitor. In fact, I did not criticize the content;

3) I am not the owner of another forum; otherwise, if anything, your "defects" would have been my advantages;

4) I don't see why I should have sent you a private message instead of discussing it with the community? It is so true that many of them gave me kind suggestions, much more than you did, as you seemed more busy defending your wounded pride rather than listening to my simple observations;

5) perhaps it depends on my PC, but when I open "view new content," it always responds with "sorry, no new content found" even if I haven't read the new messages yet.

I am sorry that this sterile polemic has arisen from my first observation. As far as I am concerned, I still see nothing offensive in it. I hope that if there was indeed this misunderstanding, the matter can be resolved more serenely. Also because, "the table is not set poorly at all and the food is not disgusting at all!" therefore, if possible, I would like to continue staying with you.

Regards

Massimiliano

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Reply 12 by Rotore

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maxsbk wrote:

5) maybe it depends on my PC but when I open "view new content" it always responds with "sorry no new content found" even if I haven't read the new messages yet.

If I remember correctly, perhaps the first time you have to choose what you want to see regarding the new content: unread, last 24 hours, last week, etc.

See image ...which is the part on the left of the video when you enter "New content"

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Reply 13 by maxsbk

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Rotore wrote:

If I remember correctly, perhaps the first time you have to choose what you want to see regarding new content: unread, last 24 hours, last week, etc.

See image ...which is the part to the left of the video when you enter "New content"

Thank you very much, yes I tried changing these too, but the result does not change. Anyway thanks

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Reply 14 by Rotore

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Always out of caution, make sure that "Forums" is highlighted (selected) (always in the same section of the previous image)

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Reply 15 by maxsbk

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Rotore wrote:

Just to be safe, make sure that "Forums" is highlighted (selected) (always in the same section of the previous image)

Absolutely yes.. if you tell me how to attach images I can show you how my screen appears. thanks again

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Reply 16 by Thesimon

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maxsbk wrote:

In the meantime, I apologize if my observations may have offended anyone in some way, but I assure you that was not their purpose. Also because, as you rightly pointed out to me, "there are many other open forums on the internet..." and therefore it would have been easier for me to choose others rather than spending time writing what I have said.

Anyway, since I am here, I would instead like to make some considerations regarding your response, which seemed truly excessively sharp and the result of excessive resentment since, in my opinion, I find no offensive sentence in my observation.

Anyway:

1) the fact that the forum is not paid is not an answer to someone who is spontaneously suggesting some of their difficulties to you; on the contrary, it should be of interest to you if you want the site to grow;

2) the very fact that I have only posted 6 messages is an indication that the difficulties I encountered depend precisely on the immediacy and the ability of the site to "attract" a new visitor. In fact, I did not make criticisms regarding the content;

3) I am not the owner of another forum; otherwise, if so, your "defects" would have been my advantages;

4) I don't see why I should have sent you a private message instead of discussing it with the community? It is so true that many of them gave me kind suggestions, much more than you did, as you seemed more busy defending your wounded pride rather than listening to my simple observations;

5) perhaps it depends on my PC, but when I open "view new content" it always responds with "sorry, no new content found" even if I haven't read the new messages yet.

I am sorry that this sterile polemic arose from my first observation. As far as I am concerned, I continue to see nothing offensive in it. I hope that if there was indeed this misunderstanding, the matter can be resolved more serenely. Also because, "the table is not poorly set at all and the food is not disgusting at all!" therefore, if possible, I would like to continue staying with you.

Regards

Massimiliano

I am glad to have been wrong in my observation if that is how things are.

I will answer you point by point...

1) Ok, but for problems inherent to the use of the platform, one does not write delicate phrases like "... and does this seem like an intuitive and immediate method?? moreover settings in English! it feels like configuring Windows instead of two chats in a forum.. bah :wacko:" because to me, this, yes, seems only like sterile provocation. It would have been nicer to say "would it be possible to improve this thing?". In any case, you can always ask other users how to use certain forum functions and you will see that with a little effort, it won't seem so difficult. These are things everyone does here and they have never had problems.

As I repeat to you, everyone knows that, compatible with my commitments, in the end I have always satisfied user requests, provided they were mass requests; it seems obvious to me. You cannot tinker with the code for every whim of every user, otherwise it would become a full-time job and not a passion to cultivate in your spare time.

2) No one else so far has encountered problems with the use of this forum; someone with registration, problems that depend on spam configurations of their own email inbox which determines the impossibility of validating the registration—a situation over which neither the platform nor I have control—but they have contacted me via email and I have always fixed everyone's problems. If you are the only one having problems navigating this site, I hypothesize a lack of familiarity with IPB platforms. Perhaps you feel more comfortable with open-source phpBB type CMS, which on the administration side have a ton of problems with spammers and security, as well as, in my opinion, with user-side navigation, but this second hypothesis only concerns my perspective.

3) It depends on viewpoints, also because regarding these defects, out of 3000 users it seems that the only one to see them has been you... (Now I am not talking about you, but I am referring back to the idea of the first post I sent you) I do not share the idea of going to platforms with the pure intention of making criticisms and in my opinion, as I told you in the other post, I also think it is stupid to talk about competition on the web. In this field, products are not sold, so what should the competition be? However, I tell you that we have had several diatribes with trolls who came here only to spam or smear, people who have not published any posts regarding piano-related issues, piano technique, or music in general, and who came only to cause damage.

4) Because if you believe there is something to improve, it shouldn't be the community that does it; I must do it, provided I have access to the code. The discussion with"

I find the community constructive if there are proposals, but I don't think I have read any. I have no pride to defend; among other things, I connect very little due to my commitments and I try to avoid disputes whenever possible. What I defend are solely the interests of the platform, so that it remains a clean and "harmonious" place, just to stay on theme.

5) This site uses cookies to track your settings and replay them when you use the same function. Try to check that your browser allows the use of Cookies and Javascript.

With these premises, I don't see why you should leave. It doesn't seem to me that anyone has kicked you out!

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Reply 17 by maxsbk

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Dear Simone, I could easily counter every one of your responses... there are many contradictions, but I do not want to continue arguing with you; evidently you are still very young, so best wishes and good luck with your work.

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Reply 18 by Thesimon

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I understand, I may be very young but I assure you that I am not as stupid as she wants to make me seem, and in fact, her remark about not wanting to counter every single point because she feels superior to me due to being older irritates me quite a bit (regardless of the fact that I am 31 years old, I am not exactly a child), or perhaps she has no arguments; on the contrary, I find reasoning with her to be very unpleasant. I still maintain the idea that facts are the arguments to base oneself on and words are merely variations in air pressure: if out of 3000 people the problem is only hers, then perhaps she is the one who should update herself and understand that we are no longer in the Stone Age and have that small amount of mental flexibility to understand that the "Follow this topic" button allows you to "Follow the topic" and the "View new content" button means observing the latest updated topics; honestly, I just cannot see the difficulty... At this point, however, I am no longer truly willing to open any debate with her, as she considers me inferior, therefore I leave her in her position above everything and everyone, closed in her convictions; I hope we don't hear from each other again...

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