Guide to buying a new/used piano

DIGITAL PIANO PURCHASE!!!

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Good morning everyone! I am a new user and this site has really impressed me... You are all truly very thorough in your answers... That being said, I'll get straight to the point...

I intend to purchase a digital piano (since I cannot afford an acoustic piano which, among other things, I already have at home but it is quite old and the mechanics are not excellent—for the record, it is a LEHMANN from the early 1900s)... I have already done extensive research so I am already leaning towards some models, but if you have others, I'm all ears =)

I studied piano for 3 years, so I have the basics, and I have been playing for 4 years for pleasure in the moments when I am not studying for university (medicine, unfortunately or fortunately XD)... So I would like a piano with a mechanism as similar as possible to an acoustic one (I know having it be identical is impossible) and possibly with some interesting functions, since I intend to start recording myself and also going to play around in some venues or at some parties... But I don't want too many functions! I am not demanding about that... What interests me is that it has a good mechanism, a great sound, and anyway some relatively simple but useful functions... That being said, I tell you that my budget was initially 1000 euros, but after reading around a bit, I realize that with that amount you get nothing of substance!

So let's say I could go up to 1750 euros, but no more, please!

The models that have caught my eye are the following:

-ROLAND FP7-F (about 1750 euros) and this one seems to me to have many functions and is good both for stage use and for playing at home

-YAMAHA CLP340 (about 1700 euros) I love the sound very much and the mechanism seems good... The problem with this one is that I don't think it's suitable for the stage

-CASIO CELVIANO AP-620 (about 1400 euros)

-ORLA GRAND ONE 110 or 210 (about 1600 euros)... Honestly, this is the one that has impressed me the most, and I won't deny that it would be my favorite! I wouldn't want to have been swayed just by the aesthetics, but I have always wanted a grand piano and having one for so little seems like a dream! Furthermore, with a bit of effort, it could also be disassembled and carried around for gigs and it would make a splendid impression! So I would especially like information on this line of pianos and I would like to know if it is worth buying (and which one, the 110 or the 210?), if the comments from those who have already bought it are good, how it is in terms of mechanics and sound, etc...

Thank you very much to whoever has the patience and the desire to answer me... I really need a hand to realize one of my big dreams!!!

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Reply 2 by Thesimon

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I'll give you my personal ratings....

Roland -> Excellent

Yamaha -> Good

Casio -> I have never tried it

Orla -> I don't remember well but it seems to me that especially the samples did not encourage me much.

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Reply 3 by viktor90

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Ok, thank you so much.. Really lightning fast!!! So I interpret your message as: "I advise you to buy the Roland", right? And regarding the ORLA that made my eyes sparkle to say the least, you really don't recommend it to me? Forgive me for asking this question, but I really like it so much! Even if maybe it has fewer functions than the fp7-f, I would really love to have it... Obviously provided that it isn't low quality, or defective, or could cause problems in the future... I don't want to regret the purchase...

ps: do you have other ideas for digital pianos based on my budget and based on what I have written?

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Reply 5 by viktor90

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mmm, unfortunately we are going over in terms of price, also considering that I would have to buy the stool and the headphones. So the fp7-f is already at the very limits of my budget.

Anyway, since it's obvious that the best thing for me is to try as many as possible, I would like to go to a store with fairly clear ideas. Therefore, which ones do you recommend I try, hoping they are all available?

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Reply 6 by Thesimon

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Then wait a little bit and set more money aside. If you have to spend 1800, you can wait a little and spend 2000. I don't think it's the 200 euro difference. This is my advice.

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Reply 8 by viktor90

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So updating your personal ratings, would your judgment of the Kawai MP10 be "excellent"? Can I ask you what it has more of compared to the Roland FP7-F? Sorry for taking advantage, but they all seem the same to me XD

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Reply 9 by Thesimon

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Digital pianos must be tested. I like the Kawai keyboard very much. It is made of wood, it has a coating layer that simulates ivory; in fact, the keyboard is called Ivory Touch. The double escapement simulation is very beautiful. In short, it's a keyboard that needs to be tried. Try it and you will see that you will understand immediately. Explaining sensations is very difficult.

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Reply 10 by viktor90

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A question: I like Kawai pianos very much in general... the mp10 model costs around 2100 euros, while the mp6 costs about 1400... Clearly they are a bit different, especially in the touch... My question is: is the mp10 worth 700 euros more than the mp6? That is, is it worth spending 700 euros more for the mp10? Thank you very much... I need this important information...

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Reply 11 by Thesimon

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It depends... What is your level? I mean, if you just need it for a piano bar, even a Farfisa is fine; if you need to play concert pieces on it, every extra euro you can set aside to get something better is a blessing.

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Reply 12 by viktor90

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ahahahahah let's just say that for now I play for pleasure but I think I'm pretty good... And I believe it is my current acoustic piano (which, as mentioned, has bad mechanics and a not very pleasant sound, being quite "old") that is blocking me from improving even more! I am very motivated and I won't deny that my dream is to go play in public, although, obviously, I don't know if I will have the time and especially the ability... I will only find out by trying =) this is my situation... Let's say I am an amateur, but I believe I have the ability to go very far... So 2 questions:

1. do you confirm your advice, i.e., I spend for the mp10, even if it costs more, but at least I know I really have everything necessary to reach my goal?

2. today I will go for a tour of all the musical instrument stores in Bari... And what if I don't find the Kawai MP10? Or not even the MP6 or the Roland FP7-F, at least to try them? I have never tried any digital piano... What do I do? Forgive me if I am taking advantage of your kindness... Thanks in advance

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Reply 13 by Thesimon

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Look, with all due respect, put yourself in my shoes and try to understand that I cannot take the responsibility of telling you "buy this model" so blindly for several reasons... Primarily because these are not objective evaluations, but subjective ones, and secondly because if they were objective in nature, I would risk being sued by all the other brands. It is obvious that these are personal opinions. Pianos must be tested before being purchased; with digital ones, and even more so with acoustic ones, you have to find your own piano. Another reason that doesn't allow me to say "get this" is that I haven't the slightest idea what your idea of a digital keyboard is. It is practically obvious that digitals do not have keyboards like those of an acoustic one; if you therefore expect to feel as if you were on a grand piano, you would be disappointed. On the other hand, however, if the only keyboard you have tried is that of your acoustic piano—which it seems to me is not very high-performing—well, then any digital piano keyboard will seem like manna from heaven.

My advice is always the same: call music stores to ask if they have that particular model in stock and go try them. FP7-F, MP6, MP10 are all excellent digital pianos. Among the three, I personally prefer the MP10 for several reasons... Keyboard, tactile feel of the keyboard, sample quality, etc., etc.; it must be said that it is not by chance also the most expensive of the three. Do not rush and go around trying them; do not try only one and then buy it, settling for what you have taken—with the same money, you could have gotten a better keyboard for yourself. You have already done the bulk of the work by narrowing it down to these three models and discarding the rest of the myriad. It is just a matter of choosing one.

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Reply 14 by viktor90

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perfect! It was exactly what I had thought =) anyway it is obvious that I am only asking for your very personal opinion... Unfortunately, not being an expert and not knowing one in person, I am not saying that I take what you tell me as the absolute truth, but I certainly trust what you tell me much more than what I can know myself or what shopkeepers will tell me (whom, after some negative experiences, I trust very little!)... That is why I wanted your personal opinion... Thank you and see you soon

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Reply 16 by Thesimon

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Dear thepianist, replicating the same post in 6 different discussions pointing to the same external eCommerce site is SPAM. Repeating this would serve no purpose since the forum is completely controlled by me and all the other moderators, for whom it only takes one click to delete a post. Please read carefully the rules you accepted during registration in order to avoid repeating violations of netiquette. Next time I will have to proceed with a ban.

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Reply 17 by foster12

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I honestly don't know Roland. I know Casio, Yamaha and Kawai.

Honestly, I would go for the MP6 or MP10 as suggested by Simone.

1) You can't carry the MP10 around easily because it exceeds 30kg. (I struggle with the P105b)

2) Mechanically, I believe they are the most cutting-edge for their price range.

You can also look for a second-hand/used one; if you really can't find the MP10, even the MP8 is valid.

Or the MP6 is perfectly fine.

I opted for a Yamaha P105b because I categorically refuse to spend more than 500 euros on an electronic keyboard.

There is certainly a huge gap between a P105b and an MP6 or MP10, both in terms of weight and mechanics.

But if you want to practice, many times the P105b is better than certain poorly made vertical pianos.

Just as scavino suggested, even the P35 (even lower in price) is a good workhorse for transport.

Of course, here we are talking about VERY cheap electronic pianos!

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Reply 19 by MassimoF

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Hi Viktor, did you end up buying the digital piano? I am selling my Yamaha CLP-340, practically new (used for only 3 months, I still have all the packaging) due to switching to an upright acoustic piano.

Ciao Massimo

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