Does information always mean culture?
We are talking about Wikis and similar; how do you view this kind of portal?
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Does information always mean culture?
We are talking about Wikis and similar; how do you view this kind of portal?
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To get an idea about something one is not familiar with, I would say they are more than fine
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Kappa, sorry, but you opened a potentially very interesting discussion on formal systems and as soon as someone (me) raised some objections, you disappeared... and even here you are casting a gigantic and vast hook... I mean, I could write pages and pages to answer this question you're asking here, but I lose the desire if I know that you won't continue the conversation afterwards...
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Kappa wrote:Does information always mean culture?
In my opinion, yes; I cannot imagine any culture without information.
Kappa wrote:We are talking about Wikis and similar sites, how do you view this type of portal?
"Similar"...? It doesn't seem to me that there is anything similar to a wiki. There are encyclopedic sites, of ancient tradition, such as Treccani; but a wiki is an 'encyclopedia in fieri'; furthermore, it is multimedia (it could not be printed in volumes). It is something else entirely.
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1. @Thallo: I haven't disappeared, I am waiting for rich contributions
2. @CromaDiBrera: let's do this, what differences do you foresee between a traditional encyclopedia and a wiki-type one?
3. @Tiger: I might even agree... but perhaps it doesn't depend on what you are looking for?
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Kappa wrote:1. @Thallo: I haven't disappeared, I am waiting for rich contributions
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Kappa wrote:Does information always mean culture?
We are talking about Wikis and similar sites, how do you view this kind of portal?
As Thallo rightly observed, throwing out certain topics without introducing even a shred of a thesis makes one lose interest. That is to say, you must have an idea regarding it, right? Why don't you share it and make it a topic for discussion? Otherwise, it ends up that as soon as a "rich contribution" arrives, people follow that, but they do not follow the author of the discussion. Think about it: if someone were to write: "Are xyz's Symphonies truly masterpieces?", what would the reactions be? I would probably answer "yes" (or "no" depending on who xyz is), but I wouldn't feel at all invited to argue, given that even the question doesn't present valid arguments to support the very premise of the question. This is also your case.
"Does information always mean culture? We are talking about Wikis and similar sites, how do you view this kind of portal?"
Not "we are talking," but rather "I am talking," and then: how do you see it, etc... because in my opinion, for example blah blah blah, and then blah blah blah... what do you think?
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As I was saying to CromaDiBrera, do you perceive differences between a traditional encyclopedia and a wiki-type one?
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Kappa wrote:As I was saying to CromaDiBrera, do you see differences between a traditional encyclopedia and a wiki-type one?
Ah sorry, I didn't understand the question! Yes, I would say there are quite a few differences.
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Anyway, the topic seems interesting to me. Thinking out loud, as Carlos says, I see differences. But I think it's a good fight between one support or the other.
If it is true that wiki is free and anyone can write any kind of bullshit, it is also true that anyone can correct it; we would have to see if a professional or an expert who knows a certain field by trade is willing to talk about it (write about it) for free.
I also see that the mere fact of being paid does not mean being an expert... quite the opposite.
Diciamo che l'idea di accedere ad un libro con una bibliografia verificabile e scritto da un rispettabile professionista (o studioso che sia) che non vuole perdere la faccia non è poco; come del resto su wiki c'è un problema. Esiste la bibliografia ma la stessa non è correlata al contenuto degli articoli. Per cui come dice Tiger, se uno no sa una mazza di un argomento è perfetta, ma se si vuole approfondire ... i testi sono insostituibili.
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Natan's reasoning seems sensible to me, but wiki is used as an encyclopedia and not as a treatise site. Therefore, who used to (do encyclopedias still exist?) certify the content of the writings? Considering the fact that, apart from the famous names, the idea was also to propose commercial prices to people ...