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Domenico Zipoli: Organ and Harpsichord Works (1716)

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Reply 3 by Silbermann

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Antares, I suspect there is one extra 3

Anyway, they are pieces only for keyboard, if I understood the question correctly

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Reply 5 by antares86

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uhm yes my mistake ahahahaha I swapped a 2 with a 3 anyway yes I was referring to whether it was for manual only for everyone or not

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Reply 7 by Frank

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The thing I have always wondered is why, for pianists, "harpsichordists" are only Scarlatti

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Reply 8 by Boesendorfer

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Yes, Frank, Domenico isn't just Scarlatti...

At Christmas, I will perform Domenico Zipoli's Pastorale on the organ.

You can download his compositions on the web, for example:

http://imslp.org/wiki/Category:Zipoli,_Domenico

http://it.scorser.com/S/Spartiti/domenico+zipoli/-1/1.html

Merry Christmas

http://imslp.org/wiki/Category:Zipoli,_Domenicohttp://it.scorser.com/S/Spartiti/domenico+zipoli/-1/1.html

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Reply 9 by Organista94

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Yes, Bösendorfer... and there is also a certain Girolamo

Anyway, IMSLP aside, finding the tablatures from Süddeutscher Musikverlag is quite a coup

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Reply 12 by CromaDiBrera

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I have been listening to a lot of another Girolamo... organist. I am fascinated by the middle tone and by the Italian organs that have preserved this type of temperament, such as some Antegnatis.

By the way, does anyone among you know why the "wolf fifth" is called that? I searched the web, but I didn't find anything. I wonder what wolves have to do with it...!

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Reply 13 by LucaCavaliere

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Wolf's fifth!?....

probably because the beat with the frequency that would be if the loop closed is a bit .... howling?

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Reply 14 by CromaDiBrera

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Yes, I've thought about it... I also have a Hauptwerk organ sample with various temperaments and, in fact, if it doesn't howl a little, it's almost missing something... Maybe it also has to do with expressions like "lupus in fabula", or "in bocca al lupo"... But I am curious about these things, I would enjoy finding out.

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Reply 15 by Silbermann

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Wiki won't be the best, but it gives an idea

http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temperamento_%28musica%29

meantone temperament, however, does not itself allow for the exact closing of the circle of fifths and therefore produces a very large interval in the scale ("wolf fifth"), usually between the notes G♯ and E♭; more generally, it does not allow for the use of certain altered notes (if the "black keys" are tuned as C♯, E♭, F♯, G♯, and B♭, they cannot be used to play the notes D♭, D♯, G♭, A♭, and A♯). Since musical composition, from the second half of the 16th century, increasingly required the use of more than five altered notes (for so-called "chromaticisms" and from the following century for modulation into different keys), meantone temperament posed a problem that was sometimes attempted to be overcome by constructing keyboards in which some black keys were split to separately obtain the notes E♭/D♯ and G♯/A♭ (already the monumental organ of Lorenzo da Prato in the Basilica of San Petronio in Bologna, 1475, features some keys split in this way).

http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temperamento_%28musica%29

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Reply 16 by CromaDiBrera

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Thank you Silbermann, but I was so curious that I had already read the entry that you promptly and rightly suggested. It seems that even the Antegnatis resorted on some occasions to this expedient of half-keys, which has fallen into disuse (it seems) only due to the relative lack of skill of the performers. A few years ago, in the Prague museum of Villa Bertramka, I even saw a clavichord with a couple of half-keys in the bass (and I only understood now what they were used for).

In the meantime, regarding my curiosity about the reason for the name ("wolf fifth"), I have begun to suppose that it has a liturgical origin, in an allegorical sense: the mass is the celebration of the Lamb of God, and this is what the music celebrates on the organ; "the wolf" could be the opposition to the Lamb (divine): if you go away because of that cursed interval, the wolf eats the lamb along with the whole priest...! In fact, even the tritone was considered "diabolical".... Well, what do you say...? Does it seem plausible to you?

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