L. V. Beethoven

Doubt regarding Beethoven's piano sonatinas

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Do you think the piano sonatinas were actually written by Beethoven? I am asking because ever since this idea got stuck in my head, I have only found fragmentary news, in the sense that I have a score that is attributed to Beethoven, but I cannot find them in the catalogue. Maybe it's just a cataloging problem...

... what do you think?

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Reply 2 by OrlandiArmando

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Azzurro!

e what is the poor website www.lvbeethoven.it for? I believe you are referring to the two sonatinas Anhang 5,

http://www.lvbeethoven.it/Opere/Beethoven-Midi-Mp3-Sonate-Pianoforte.html#Anhang05-1

Published in Hamburg, Bhome, after Beethoven's death (1828?): small elementary compositions, each in two movements (the first: Moderato, Romanza; the second: Allegro assai, Rondo) of very doubtful authenticity.

(I would say VEERRRY doubtful) ...but you play them and I will put them on the site and let's get rid of those ugly mp3s!!

www.lvbeethoven.ithttp://www.lvbeethoven.it/Opere/Beethoven-Midi-Mp3-Sonate-Pianoforte.html#Anhang05-1

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Reply 3 by gpr

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The sonatinas in question are well known to piano students, at least to those who have used the famous (still used?) Cesi-Marciano anthology, which takes the attribution to Beethoven for granted without even a question mark. A little curiosity... have you noticed that in the logo of this site (look closely at the top of this very page...) there is actually a very brief fragment from the first movement of the second sonatina (in F major)?

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Gino

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Reply 4 by antares86

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gpr the 2 sonatinas are also present in the piano anthology curated by Piccioli, there too without a doubt...

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Reply 5 by danielescarpetti

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Do you mean these ones?

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Two Sonatinas for piano: no. 1 in G+ and no. 2 in F+ WoO Anh. 5

These two Sonatinas, originally attributed to Beethoven, were questioned both in the Kinsky-Halm catalogue and in Biamonti's. Later, they found possible supporters regarding their Beethovenian authorship, but today it seems they are indeed excluded as works of the composer from Bonn. The fact remains that no other authorship has been found and that the final word on their creative hand has not yet been spoken. They were probably published in 1828 in Hamburg by the publisher Bhoëme and both consist of two movements just like the Sonatina in F+, in this catalogue at number 26, likely dating back to its own period 1790/92

While certainly not having musical ideas of great importance, listening to them is pleasant and, I do not find their pairing with the Sonatina in F+ impertinent at all.

Giovanni Biamonti/Armando Orlandi and Mp3

Video El Musico de Bonn WoO Anh. 5

Giovanni Biamonti/Armando Orlandi e Mp3
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