Earthquake

Legal obligations are needed (which could even be implemented, if desired) to ensure houses are built with anti-seismic technology. Contributions are welcome, but they are merely stopgaps. The problem is structural... let's say infrastructural!

I feel sorry for all those who are caught in the middle.

It seems that this time they want to get serious... we shall see

A big jolt this morning at 7:40 AM. It woke me up while I was happily dozing! They say it was the strongest tremor in the last 10 years, stronger than the one that destroyed L'Aquila. Epicenter still near Norcia. Here in Rome, it was clearly felt this time. Duration about ten seconds, maybe a bit more. I feel sorry for the populations living near the epicenter zones... This earthquake is making life very difficult for them and it won't let up.

Yeah... and I doubt it will be the last strong tremor...

http://video.repubblica.it/dossier/terremoto-30-ottobre/terremoto-centro-italia-il-momento-della-scossa-filmato-dai-cacciatori/257465/257731?video&ref=fbpr

if he says so, he is more credible, I know - simple and essential

http://last-webs.com/2016/10/27/il-geologo-litalia-si-sta-aprendo-in-due-i-terremoti-continueranno-ecco-cosa-possiamo-fare/

I am disgusted by Politicians. In this grave moment, Politics should stop the machines and dedicate itself only to ITALY!!!!!

How can one think about referendums or reforms or anything else with an Italy that is crumbling? What do they think they will achieve? My NO will be big and heartfelt: they are making fools of us and want to take advantage of an Era of great confusion. Furthermore, they are not truly earning our trust. Is it really the case to put into the hands of these people the power to reform our constitution? Rather, why don't they step down and give three months' salary sic et simpliciter to our fellow citizens who are in tents after losing their homes, assets, and jobs? SHAME!!!!!!!!!!!!

Setting aside the discussion about the referendum, there are many other problems that have been deliberately overlooked for years. My reasoning might be "simplistic," but I always tend to exemplify a discussion to bring it to a point where basic logic can be applied, namely by dividing a large problem into smaller problems to be solved in isolation... This modus operandi has led me to ask myself a simple question: "For years now we have passively watched television programs like 'Quinta colonna,' 'Dalla vostra parte'; well, I wonder, if for at least two years people have always talked about pensions, immigration, and banks, this is a clear sign that for two years they have not managed to solve any major problem since the discussion continues." I consider myself neither a racist nor an egoist, because I deeply believe that we are all children of this splendid nature and I am a proponent of good; I would like a world without suffering, but don't you think that this immigration is just a business? False political faces like Boldrini speak to us of "immigration" as if it represented a good from which to derive a cultural profit, even involving Romani populations. I wonder, at the risk of appearing cynical, what should I learn from the Romani? It is as clear as water that they want to describe as white what is actually black in everyone's eyes.

I think Italians have had to let a mountain of nefariousness pass under their noses; they have paid not only economically but also with hardship and deprivation for many illegalities of this state and the banks, served by these waiters. Scams costing billions of euros on the shoulders of Italians, tax pressure at almost 50% and a simultaneous lack of functionality in any public service, from healthcare to transport, the maintenance of road networks, works started and never completed just to squander bribes, pension reform that has generated a very high number of "esodati" (people who have paid decades of contributions but do not see their already acquired right to retire recognized). We turn on the television and we must observe earthquake-stricken Italians in the cold in tents and illegal immigrants, funded by those same Italians, inside the tents with cell phones, Wi-Fi, a roof, hot meals, and many demands.

I do not believe that this Italy can go on this way. The constitutional reform is just the latest mockery and is unconstitutional by definition... How can a party voted for by no one even think of modifying the laws written for the people by our founding fathers? How can they ask us this when only a week ago they didn't even deign to vote on halving their own salaries, saving themselves with a tactical retreat by postponing the vote in view of the referendum?

I turn on the television and when I watch Renzi, it seems to me like seeing Cetto La Qualunque again. Promises made and never kept, such as the elimination of excise duties on gasoline... Unfortunately, however, Italians are a people of sheep capable only of complaining on Facebook and selling themselves for 80 euros. Meanwhile, unemployment continues to rise while the government continues to wave false figures. For them everything is fine, unemployment has gone down, but they don't say that those statistics also include occasional work. Not by chance, this year twice as many vouchers were sold as last year. That mentally ill woman Fornero, who defines young Italians as "Choosy" because they do not adapt to jobs, while her daughter has a prestigious position at the university and is president of a foundation funded by the San Paolo bank. I wonder why she doesn't send her daughter to work at McDonald's like so many graduates who, after years of sacrifice and money spent by their families for their education, must adapt to selling burgers to survive.

I sincerely believe that in a country worthy of being called such, one should first think of those who have contributed to its economic, cultural, political, and social life, and then also think of others. My argument is not Mussolinian but simply dictated by good logic. Anyone among us, if they had a family member in difficulty, would think of them first and then of the stranger on the street. It's not cynicism, it's reality. Who among you would put a stranger before their mother? Make such an argument and you will be told that you are populists, that you are practicing demagoguery. Nowadays everyone fills their mouth with these two terms without even knowing what the hell demagoguery is!!! They should understand that implementing logic for the good of Italians is quite different from demagoguery! Ignorant!!!

We are a people who could live only on tourism, but we have forgotten our roots, our ideals. Today one no longer lives, one survives, and when a country thinks of others before its

propri connazionali quello è un paese finito.

Come è già successo nella storia, c'è bisogno di distruggere per poter ricostruire e spero vivamente che quel momento sia vicino perché in questo modo non si può più pensare di andare avanti. Il debito pubblico aumenta di qualche milione di euro ogni giorno. Come possiamo pensare di rinascere come stato sottostando alle leggi economiche imposte da stati che stanno manipolando l'Italia con lo scopo di vederla fallire ?

Sono sinceramente sconfortato dalla situazione. Sono sconfortato per le popolazioni terremotate che stanno vivendo un incubo infinito senza l'aiuto dello Stato che hanno alimentato con i loro sforzi economici fino a ieri. E dall'altra parte solo false promesse. Sarebbe il caso di cominciare a svegliarci e mollare qualche sonora pedata al culo istruttiva.

I felt the one at 7:40 very well (and all the others too); I live on the 5th floor and the oscillations were truly strong.

I also remember the one in L'Aquila well, and the last one (let's say the one from August 24th, even though I felt all the other tremors clearly, including the one from last night).

Shortly before the 7:40 one, I felt two (like two "jolts"); I was in bed but wasn't actually sleeping—it's been years since I've slept well and lately the situation has worsened, so much so that

now even a minimal movement is enough to give me a shock; I've become a seismograph.

The one on October 30th was certainly the strongest I have ever felt, and I was sure that the magnitude was higher than that of L'Aquila; moreover, the duration was several seconds longer, I think about 30/35 seconds, but I am not 100% sure, as buildings continue to oscillate even shortly after, so it is not easy to make an exact estimate without precise data.

The fact remains that if it were up to me, I would bring up to code (as much as possible) the buildings and every home and public office that requires preventive interventions, at least a little; instead, I am more than certain that, given

the jerkishness of many apartment block residents, they would be capable of approving a change in the color of the curtains, but not a matter of primary importance like this (which also concerns them, who surely feel omnipotent), and it is these two realizations that make me worry: first, not being sure how the building was constructed; second, people's indifference until something happens to them, a typical Italian mentality.

Personally, unless I leave home, perhaps wandering around with a portable tent (and I'm not joking), I have no choice, but many have 3 or 4 homes available and they don't leave; they could easily sell and choose a more "suitable" place, obviously looking for safer solutions or at least safer than this one, but evidently they think it will never happen to them; this mentality really gets on my nerves.

In addition to this, regulations are necessary that mandate inspections, verify which and how many structures can be brought up to code and, last but not least, oblige builders to use anti-seismic materials and technologies for all new constructions, under penalty of imprisonment, otherwise we will never escape this damn fatalism that permeates the entire country.

Damn it, look here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oX0VM7kkx4M

Open content (youtube)

Good grief, seriously!....to die for!

I feel close to the apocalypse. I only wish it were a political apocalypse! But instead, nothing ever changes.....

The video posted by Piccinesco confirms exactly what I think, there are places where earthquake tremors reach thresholds much higher than the latest ones recorded by us, but it is as if nothing happens... let's say, almost. But nothing truly serious!

Something just occurred to me while reading the latest replies from Nancy and Eagle, even though what I am about to say isn't very related:

the state, understood as the guardian of the common good, is, in this case (and not only), a silent stalker (because it does not act, but watches while events unfold and, practically always, speculates on them), whereas the earthquake is nothing more than a natural event that paradoxically inspires more fear than the former.

It's like the difference between knowing and not knowing if a person has died; not knowing wears you down, while knowing—if I may use this term—"relaxes" you because it provides certainty, even if painful.

In short, the Italian state enjoys wearing down anyone who has even a minimum of conscience, especially those who possess a collective conscience regarding issues of this nature.

It doesn't seem dirty to me

http://www.ansa.it/sito/videogallery/italia/2016/11/03/ordina-casa-nuova-e-si-salva-dal-terremoto_98f5b0e6-b8b7-4ad9-8c3b-9f9ace2b5bda.html

From the video I didn't understand when they installed it for him and eventually he was lucky to have space where to put it.