East and West

the real question is: is Chinese music incomprehensible to us?

I mean... do you know any Chinese composers or traditional Chinese music that you find incomprehensible?

I listened to something and I literally got bored ... the atmospheres are nice for a few minutes, but thinking about following them for 2 hours would be saying the least unfeasible, at least as far as I am concerned ...

one thing is being "boring/tiresome", another thing is not understanding. Many Western compositions are extremely tiresome, and I would very much like to understand what CrazyPiano means by "understanding."

... and then, sincerely, talking about "us" and "them" is always and anyway a racist thing to do.

thallo wrote:

talking about "us" and "them" is always and anyway a racist thing.

More than racist, in my opinion, the substantial difference between Western culture and others is made by writing

It goes without saying that writing is one of humanity's great achievements and, translating the concept into the musical field, I feel compelled to say that this makes the difference.

Even taking very rich cultures with great tradition, such as the Japanese one, it is no coincidence that one begins to be known once there is a sort of "imitation" of approach compared to Western culture.

Even when the means were not lacking, it was Western composers who were known elsewhere and not vice versa.

A long discussion that can be explored in depth, but in general I think that only music for meditative purposes can refrain from being written ... moreover, writing implies several little things, such as planning.

A subvalued aspect today in general (something that must become a source of great concern, for me it already is) and anyway neglected in the musical field by other populations.

This is very brief; I know it will stir up quite a hornet's nest, but it is worth talking about.

thallo wrote:

one thing is "being tedious," another thing is not understanding. Many Western compositions are extremely tedious, and I would very much like to understand what CrazyPiano means by "understanding."

I just wanted to describe a trend, that is... perhaps as someone says it will be meditative music, but after a while it seems that my interest in that type of listening ceases. And so do other friends I have asked.

In a generalized trend, I thought it depended on understanding and indeed I don't understand why at a certain point that music must persevere along certain tracks.

Since they like it... perhaps we are the ones who don't understand. They like it, I don't know if that is clear.

It's a pity that they have no problems with our music... is theirs perhaps too simple for us?

Frank wrote:

writing implies several things, like designing.

something is escaping me, like designing?

Frank wrote:

An underrated aspect today in general

...like...in the era of communication...?...

I had missed this post

Crazypiano wrote:

I'm missing something, how to design?

Look, every composition is based on a plan; the longer the piece is, the more necessary it becomes. Try building a skyscraper... or even a little house without a plan, and then we'll see if it stands up

Same with music, do you think that "just like that" will pull off half an hour of music?

Crazypiano wrote:

...how...in the communication era...?.

In my opinion, at least two little things don't help: touch screens and voice commands

Frank wrote:

Look, every composition is based on a project; the longer the piece is, the more necessary it becomes. Try to build a skyscraper... or even a little house without a project, and then we'll see if it stands up

...I had never thought about it in these terms.

Chopin wrote:

...I had never thought about it in these terms.

...but it must be this way, every time we analyze a piece we strive to discover (precisely) the composer's project and lead all elements back to it. Essentially, one tries to do the opposite of the original work.