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Finale 2014 - Audio file export

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Opening post by rstrauss

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Finale 2014 using East West Gold libraries, all on a Mac Mini with 8gb of RAM and an Intel i5 2.5ghz processor

i have recently updated to the Yosemite system and I have encountered a problem with exporting audio files, without Human Playback.

I do not encounter the problem when playing the score directly from Finale.

I tried exporting an orchestral score and saw the problem, so I exported a much smaller one with only 7 instruments.

What happens is that the .aiff audio file (iTunes format) occasionally seems to skip, to be clear, as if a needle on a vinyl record were skipping.

If it doesn't happen when playing Finale live, how can it happen when exporting the file? Shouldn't it be the same thing?

I have tinkered around a bit but I haven't been able to resolve it.

Aside from downgrading to the previous OSX system (last resort), does anyone have a solution or has anyone already encountered this problem?

thanks in advance for the help.

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Reply 2 by Piccinesco

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Strange as an inconvenience, in fact, logically with Finale performing playback (at what speed, normal or higher?) one would think that the export might not occur smoothly, but the opposite happens.

Have you tried (going by intuition) setting one or two bars of precount before exporting without live execution? Even if it seems absurd, you never know.

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Reply 3 by rstrauss

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finale 2014 only exports .aiff files at (approximately) double the normal speed. I tried to look at the file in detail with Audacity and where there are the jumps, there is simply no music. Finale doesn't eat it, there is simply a micro-delay in the middle; in fact, by removing the empty portion and listening again, everything is there.

"Have you tried (going by intuition) setting one or two bars of precount before exporting without live playback? Even if it seems absurd, you never know."

Do you mean inserting 2 empty bars before the music starts?

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Reply 4 by Piccinesco

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Yes, but now that you have specified exactly what is happening, I think it depends on something else, but I wouldn't dare say what; moreover, I don't have the full version (I tried a demo a while ago) and I wouldn't be able to test it.

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Reply 7 by Piccinesco

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I don't know if Finale has this function, the buffer.

It is a function present in every audio production software, even though Finale is notation software.

But since we are talking about exporting audio files, maybe (I say maybe and I am surely wrong) it has something to do with it.

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Reply 11 by rstrauss

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I have tried several times and the strange thing is that by exporting twice one after another, the results are different.

The only difference is that I deactivated wifi and bluetooth and the second time is better than the first.

So I am afraid it is a RAM problem and that Yosemite sucks up a lot, leaving little for the rest.

I will try to call the shop in my area.

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Reply 13 by Thesimon

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Regarding RAM, you just need to see how many libraries are loaded... Even 32 GB can be little if there are 100 VST tracks. It all depends...

In any case, have you optimized the VST instances? In Kontakt, you can load "n" libraries inside the same VST by routing the MIDI channels instead of loading "n" libraries in "n" VST instances. This way you save the RAM that you wouldn't use to load all the other instances. However, I don't know how this can be done in Finale, I am not a heavy user of this software...

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Reply 14 by rstrauss

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TheSimon wrote:

Regarding RAM, you just need to see how many libraries are loaded... Even 32 GB can be little if there are 100 VST tracks. It all depends...

In any case, have you optimized the VST instances? In Kontakt, you can load "n" libraries inside the same VST by routing the MIDI channels instead of loading "n" libraries in "n" VST instances. This way you save the RAM that you wouldn't use to load all the other instances. However, I don't know how this can be done in Finale; I am not a heavy user of that software...

Here is a glimmer of hope.

So, I use Finale, but I load the libraries with Kontakt 5, so from the score management you access the Kontakt interface and load the instruments there, one for each MIDI channel; therefore, if you have 2 flutes, 2 identical instruments will be loaded into MIDI channels 1 and 2.

In Finale, there are 8 slots available where you can load VSTs... where you choose what to use: Aria Player, Softsynth, or Kontakt.

Usually, for convenience, I use one row for each class of instruments—so woodwinds, brass, strings, and percussion—meaning 4 slots, but I don't use all 16 channels.

If what you are saying is true, then maybe I am overdoing it, in the sense that I should use all 16 available MIDI channels for each VST, and only change when I need to use a different VST... for example, East West Gold doesn't have saxophones, so I have to use the Garritan ones (sigh!) and therefore I have to bring in Aria Player as well.

I'll let you know.

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