Finale: Managing the Organ In Playback

You cannot change stops within the same staff; if you have a library, you can range through the stops by changing the staff

Take a look at

http://www.hauptwerk...er&pos=0,10,105

It should be the top

See also

http://syntheway.com/organux.htm

This one is a bit crappy but free

http://electronictri...ano-antico.html

I wouldn't want to say something stupid, but one of the best organ playbacks I have ever heard was proposed by Geppino.

If I am not mistaken, he uses GPO4.

So, I used GPO4 but there are enormously better ones, for example there is a Tonehammer organ called Lakeside organ, or another one from Sonokinetics, or those from the Hauptwerk virtual organ that Dies irae suggested. The funny thing about the Tonehammer organ is that it also has many ambient noises, the sound of pages being turned, various creaks from the organ bench, etc....

In Finale, different registrations can be used on the same staff; GPO4 does not have keyswitches, so you have to load the various registrations onto different MIDI channels and use an ad hoc expression that has the effect of changing the MIDI channel during playback, so on the same staff you can recall different instruments loaded on different MIDI channels. I did this back in the day when the ripieno entered during the fugue's stretto, and I also did this for a fugue by Frank, which had 4-5 different registrations; there is no need for a staff for every instrument.

AbateFaria wrote:

I wouldn't want to say something stupid, but one of the best organ playbacks I have ever heard... GPO4.

I have both GPO4 and Hauptwerk (of which you can download a free demo): the latter is incomparable, truly another planet. Hauptwerk is the only company specialized in acquiring organ samplings (and some harpsichords) from every era and every part of the world and utilizes institutes and researchers everywhere; they are 24-bit samples and even the simplest spinet weighs more than the entire GPO orchestra.

The prices, in relation to the quality, are also very honest. It's just that they don't sell in Italy and you have to download everything via the internet.

Thanks for the first interventions

CromaDiBrera wrote:

The prices, in relation to the quality, are also very honest.

Meaning?

I forgot

CromaDiBrera wrote:

Hauptwerk (of which the demo can be downloaded for free)

Where do I download the demo?

For GPO4

http://www.garritan.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=154&Itemid=54

Organista94 wrote:

I forgot

Where do I download the demo?

From the website, obviously. There are different demos and you can use them for as long as you want; in the 24-bit one there is an intermittent bell that "disturbs" the audio, in the 16-bit one there isn't. There is only one organ (splendid nonetheless and with all the sounds) and a modern harpsichord.

Organista94 wrote:

I mean?

Even for the prices, just search on the site, as I just did to answer you... 210 euros for the base version; 499 for the other one.

Then there are some instruments downloadable for free (always complete with all stops, anyway) and others that are paid.

P.S. I also forgot to say that the GPO4 has six or seven organ sounds, plus a couple of pedals, but not actual stops (e.g., "baroque organ", "reed", "flutes", "plenum", etc.). Whereas Hauptwerk shows you, on the screen, the entire console of that organ, with all the stops and their actual names, which you can mix as you would in reality.

The sonokinetic organ I recommended is called Toccata, it runs on the Kontakt engine and also has, like Hauptwerk, the screen with all the stops (about twenty in total) that can be activated or not like a real organ. It costs only 39.90 euros, excluding VAT...

Kontakt 4 has its cost, not exactly affordable. You can download its demo for free, but it only works for a few minutes (twenty, I think), after which you have to turn everything off and restart, without saving the settings.

Hauptwerk's 16-bit Demo is free and always works on its platform. I didn't count the stops, but they are those of a specific original organ from the '700 located in that church where it is: there will be about a hundred.

The only downside is that it is not intuitive to use with notation programs; you have to study the manual, obviously in English (I have used it, but honestly I don't remember how, I would have to review it).

Thank you truly to everyone, it seems to me that many interesting things have emerged ... pity that the figures are not affordable, at least for my wallet

Maybe you can make standard instruments play the parts which, if combined correctly, can resemble an organ.

You use woodwinds for the foundations and add characteristic instruments to simulate the timbres...

Is this a silly idea to you, or is there a possibility it could work?

hypotheses I hope are plausible:

- Positivo: oboe, flute and bassoon

- Positivo + brass one version (trombone+trumpet)

- Positivo + strings a second version (Vc and Vn)

- All for the ripieno

When the pedal enters, I don't know, Cb, contrabassoon etc.

I will do some Oracle tests

For those interested

http://www.pianoconcerto.it/forum/index.php?/topic/5016-hauptwerk-summer-sale/