Gustav Mahler - Quartet in A minor for piano and strings

I simply love this!!!

Viola, you tricked me!

You've already posted the comment from my site so I can't play the fanatic who gives explanations.

A hug.

How wonderful!!! a nostalgic and heartbreaking piece. If I think that Mahler wrote it at 16 years old, it's incredible! you expect a piece like this to be written by an adult.

For movie lovers, I remind you that Martin Scorsese used it as the soundtrack for the film "Shutter Island" with Leonardo DiCaprio and Ben Kingsley, a film that is absolutely must-see.

Beautiful! The film too! Pirandellian!

I listened to it too. I didn't know it. I'll express myself like Antares... Adorable.

Besides, in my limited knowledge of Mahler ( ) with this quartet I come to discover that - if he wanted to - he could manage to stay under 10 minutes

Jokes aside... it's true: nostalgic and poignant. Perhaps Mahler - much to his chagrin - was already quite an adult at sixteen.

Too bad there are no other quartets of his

LucaCavaliere wrote:

I listened to it too. I didn't know it. I express myself like Antares... Adorable.

Besides, in my limited knowledge of Mahler ( ) with this quartet I come to discover that - if he wanted to - he could manage to stay under 10 minutes

Jokes aside... it's true: nostalgic and poignant. Perhaps Mahler - much to his chagrin - was already quite an adult at sixteen.

Too bad I don't have any of his other quartets

VITA FUGAX was often repeated to a dear friend Gustav Mahler during the stay in Dobbiaco.

"Mahler was a man who consumed himself alone. In his intimacy, a fire was always burning."

It is impossible not to love Mahler, a delicate, profound, and suffering creature. A simple man, of honest feelings.

In this youthful work, the feeling of Sehnsucht is already present (I would say dominant), which is not just desire, but is also (and above all) a sense of loss. Mahler, at only sixteen years old, already felt lost to the world.

He is like his music (one cannot always say the same of a composer).

(it's him and there will always be him in my heart and on my t-shirt)

If I may, I would integrate - synthesizing as much as possible - by saying that Mahler's compositions reflect the situation of social and spiritual crisis manifesting in Central Europe between the end of the nineteenth century and the beginning of the twentieth. This tendency manifests as a reaction against positivism and materialistic rationalism, with the spread of a growing malaise present in culture, art, and music. Artists live in an agonizing situation where art is considered a means of transforming society and the experience that man has in the world.
Thus, the deepest themes linked to the unconscious are represented, such as the themes of solitude, physical and mental illness, which will be extensively studied and analyzed by S. Freud (1859-1939) through the "scientific study of the unconscious."

Mahler's inner world is dominated by a sense of existential anguish, melancholy, and tragic grandeur. For example, his symphonies stem from a literary or philosophical program serving as the musical "aesthetic subject," a "guiding thread." In effect, Mahler's music presents a coexistence between refined and elegant taste and banal elements, such as fanfare themes, carousels, or folk-like motifs that are integrated into very complex formal structures. One only needs to think of the theme of the third movement of the first symphony "Titan" (1884-88); it is the minor key version of the "Frère Jacques" canon, which is transformed into a funeral march of a grotesque character.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2rKsfm-FYk

Viola wrote:

He is like his music (one cannot always say the same of a composer).

For example?

Frank wrote:

If I may, I would integrate—summarizing as much as possible—by saying that Mahler's compositions reflect the situation of social and spiritual crisis manifesting in Central Europe at the turn of the century between the end of the nineteenth and the beginning of the twentieth. This tendency manifests as a reaction against positivism and materialistic rationalism, with the spread of a growing malaise present in culture, art, and music. Artists live in an agonizing situation where art is considered a means of transforming society and the experience that man has in the world.

Thus, the deepest themes linked to the unconscious are represented, such as the themes of solitude, physical and mental illness, which will be extensively studied and analyzed by S. Freud (1859-1939) through the "scientific study of the unconscious."

Mahler's inner world is dominated by a sense of existential anguish, melancholy, and tragic grandeur. For example, his symphonies stem from a literary or philosophical program serving as the "aesthetic subject" of the music, a "guiding thread." In effect, Mahler's music presents a coexistence between refined and elegant taste and banal elements, such as fanfare themes, carousel tunes, or folk motifs that are integrated into very complex formal structures. One only needs to think of the theme of the third movement of the first symphony "Titan" (1884-88); it is the minor key version of the "Frère Jacques" canon, which is transformed into a funeral march of a grotesque character.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2rKsfm-FYk

Of course you can, in fact, you must!

It is I who "should not allow myself," given my profound ignorance on the subject (tonight I have to respond to Daniele in the other discussion. I've developed performance anxiety. I'm scared. Helppp!)

Frank wrote:

For example?

An example?

Ottorino Respighi.

Viola wrote:

It is impossible not to love Mahler, a delicate, profound and suffering creature. A simple man, of honest feelings.

Well yes! This is undoubtedly a great truth!

Viola wrote:

An example?

Ottorino Respighi.

Viola wrote:

It is I who "should not allow myself to," given my profound ignorance in the matter (tonight I have to respond to Daniele in the other discussion. I've developed performance anxiety. I'm afraid. Helppp!)

Dear Viola, I don't know if I can make you feel at ease by telling you this: I am a very ignorant person. Besides that, I do not compose, I do not conduct, and - alas - I do not even play. I am here exclusively because I love.

Amo music and art.

I absolutely do not claim to have all the answers and I am very willing to question any of my statements.
Dunque ... !!!!!

As far as the discussion above is concerned, I admit that I do not know Ottorino Respighi's life because his music has never passionate me that much - I should, in truth, say not at all and I apologize for that - and therefore I have not taken an interest in it but, ... I am sure that even he, like all composers after Beethoven - but also many - if not all - before Beethoven, albeit more unconsciously and hiddenly - has been, through his music or, more accurately, through his music, expressed himself and his world.

Then, if desired, the discussion can be explored further in another more specific topic.

danielescarpetti wrote:

Dear Viola, I don't know if I can make you feel comfortable by telling you this: I am an extremely ignorant person. Besides that, I do not compose, I do not conduct, and - alas - I do not even play. I am here exclusively because I love.

Amo la musica e l'arte.

I have absolutely no absolute truths and am very willing to question any of my statements.

So ... !!!!!

As far as the discussion above is concerned, I admit that I do not know Ottorino Respighi's life because his music has never passionate me that much - I should, in truth, say not at all and I apologize - and therefore I have not taken an interest in it but, ... I am sure that he too, like all composers after Beethoven - but also many - if not all - before Beethoven, albeit more unconsciously and hiddenly - whether through his music or, more accurately, through his music, has expressed himself and his world.

Then, if desired, we can delve deeper into the discussion in another more specific topic.

In effect, it is so.

Now I will try to better express my feeling. Not having any technical competence in the matter, my approach to classical music is pure feeling.

While Mahler's soul is present (and recognizable) in every one of his works, I struggle to find the Respighi that I (re)cognized in his masterpiece (no, Luca, I won't tell you), in other, let's say more commercial, works.

Thank you Daniele, you are very kind.

I have never been able to express a thought in an organic way.

Always in bursts.

It is a limitation of mine.

Let's hope at least they are rays of light (sometimes they are).

danielescarpetti wrote:

I am a very ignorant person.

Dear Daniele . . . The only disagreements that I remember with you are:

1) in 2007, in Armando's forum, regarding the fact that Leonore III was nothing but 'the' only one as the endpoint of the so-called 'first' and 'second'.

2) in 2012 on the priority facing an 'Artwork' of decontextualization versus contextualization

3) in 2013 on the opinion that Die Weihe des Hauses op. 124 was Beethoven's only symphonic crescendo with the characteristics of the late style.

Now I have to read the sentence above!!!

No! Absolutely not this one.

And it is not to make Viola feel at ease . . .

Warm regards ... listening to Die Weihe des Hauses

Viola wrote:

. . . in his masterpiece (no, Luca, I'm not telling you)

Don't worry. . . . I am curious. But I can wait a lifetime.

A dear (disorganized) greeting to you too!

LucaCavaliere wrote:

Don't worry. . . . I am curious. But I can wait a lifetime.

A dear (disorganized) greeting to you too!

I am like President Daniel Paul Schreber: I feel something, I produce something, but, contrary to Schreber (alas!) I have some difficulty in forming a theory about it.

I hope my sunbeams do not exit through the same hole (for further details see the Schreber Case)

Viola wrote:

An example?

Ottorino Respighi.

...but the name alone isn't enough for me, because why do you think he should be different from his music?

Frank wrote:

...but the name alone isn't enough for me, because why do you think he should be different from his music?

I will answer you at twilight (not specifying which twilight. Surprise)

It's magnificent!