What harmonic functions would you assign to the chords in these sequences?
in C major:
E-7 Eb° D-7
C E° D-7
C C° C
C7 C° C7
F F#° C
C F#Ø F
C F#Ø F-
Bb7 C
F-7 Bb7 C
F Bb7 C
C F D7 C
C F7 C
in C minor:
C- Ab7 C-
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What harmonic functions would you assign to the chords in these sequences?
in C major:
E-7 Eb° D-7
C E° D-7
C C° C
C7 C° C7
F F#° C
C F#Ø F
C F#Ø F-
Bb7 C
F-7 Bb7 C
F Bb7 C
C F D7 C
C F7 C
in C minor:
C- Ab7 C-
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in C minor:
C- Ab7 C- (I VIb I, tonic area expansion, to amplify this effect, alternatively C- Ab7/C C-)
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in C major:
C F7 C I IVI (plagal, the C F7/C C issue works here too)
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in C major:
C F D7 C, it would seem like a very normal I IV II but instead of going to the V, it returns to the I (D7 could be a tonicization of the V, but how should we consider that final C?)
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Agreed for the VI and the IV, but how would you justify the minor seventh?
In the last sequence I also would have thought of a V/V, but it is curious that it resolves on the I
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For me it could be a modal connection that cannot be traced back to tonal functions. If that were the case, the question itself might be flawed.... and what modes do the notes of these 3 chords have?
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Hi Frank,
i mean them all in a modal context, perhaps only the last two have a bit of a bluesy color and can be considered standalone.
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F F#° C, preferably with C/G at the conclusion IV V7/V I (in position 46)
or in both cases, the diminished chord replaces a secondary dominant. Do you agree?
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Absolutely. The curiosity was regarding the interpretation of Ebdim D-7.
I would be inclined to think of it as a chromatic slide, but for example, I have seen that in some Dutch schools they think of it as V/V;
let me explain: Ebdim = F#dim = D7b9
D-7 = G9sus4
To me personally, it seems like a bit of a convoluted explanation...
Also because, as you rightly say, F#dim tends to resolve to a C in 4/6.
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If behind your "chromatic sliding" lies the issue of tritone substitution, the matter could be viewed like this:
By replacing the dominant of D- (A7) with its tritone (Eb7), we transform the latter into Eb-7 (to have a 100% slide: E- Eb- D-) or into Eb dim (which already contains the fifth and seventh of D-7).
What do you think?