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Harmonic analysis

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Opening post by DrJellyfish

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What harmonic functions would you assign to the chords in these sequences?

in C major:

E-7 Eb° D-7

C E° D-7

C C° C

C7 C° C7

F F#° C

C F#Ø F

C F#Ø F-

Bb7 C

F-7 Bb7 C

F Bb7 C

C F D7 C

C F7 C

in C minor:

C- Ab7 C-

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Reply 2 by JazzMania

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in C minor:

C- Ab7 C- (I VIb I, tonic area expansion, to amplify this effect, alternatively C- Ab7/C C-)

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Reply 4 by JazzMania

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in C major:

C F D7 C, it would seem like a very normal I IV II but instead of going to the V, it returns to the I (D7 could be a tonicization of the V, but how should we consider that final C?)

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Reply 5 by DrJellyfish

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Agreed for the VI and the IV, but how would you justify the minor seventh?

In the last sequence I also would have thought of a V/V, but it is curious that it resolves on the I

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Reply 6 by Frank

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For me it could be a modal connection that cannot be traced back to tonal functions. If that were the case, the question itself might be flawed.... and what modes do the notes of these 3 chords have?

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Reply 7 by DrJellyfish

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Hi Frank,

i mean them all in a modal context, perhaps only the last two have a bit of a bluesy color and can be considered standalone.

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Reply 8 by leoravera

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F F#° C, preferably with C/G at the conclusion IV V7/V I (in position 46)

or in both cases, the diminished chord replaces a secondary dominant. Do you agree?

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Reply 9 by DrJellyfish

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Absolutely. The curiosity was regarding the interpretation of Ebdim D-7.

I would be inclined to think of it as a chromatic slide, but for example, I have seen that in some Dutch schools they think of it as V/V;

let me explain: Ebdim = F#dim = D7b9

D-7 = G9sus4

To me personally, it seems like a bit of a convoluted explanation...

Also because, as you rightly say, F#dim tends to resolve to a C in 4/6.

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Reply 10 by Scambiomusic

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If behind your "chromatic sliding" lies the issue of tritone substitution, the matter could be viewed like this:

By replacing the dominant of D- (A7) with its tritone (Eb7), we transform the latter into Eb-7 (to have a 100% slide: E- Eb- D-) or into Eb dim (which already contains the fifth and seventh of D-7).

What do you think?

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