Classical Music

Harpsichord Towards the Piano

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Opening post by Chopin

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I'll start by asking whether, regarding harpsichord music, you prefer Bach or Scarlatti? And which one do you consider more innovative.

I know there aren't just these two musicians, but listening to this piece

Scarlatti - K175 - Pierre Hantai

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqqWkx6qe0c

effectively, Bach has never seemed capable of proposing such extreme pieces to me.

Furthermore, trying to listen to the same piece performed on the piano, this sonata completely loses its meaning. Is it just my impression?

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Reply 3 by Chopin

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To tell you, I need to know the differences, what are they? That way I can then tell you what I meant...

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Reply 5 by Rotore

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The reason is not clear to me, but on the piano those chords sound less dissonant and more motivated (let's say that on the harpsichord they almost sound like clusters).

As far as the comparison regarding harmonic audacity goes ... of Bach, one could cite the Fantasia in the "Chromatic Fantasia and Fugue" BWV 903

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Reply 6 by Ettore

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Regarding harmonic clusters, I cite 2 works: the fugue in B-flat minor from the first book of the WTC for Bach and Scarlatti's Cat Fugue (perhaps more audacious than Berg's sonata and even that of a certain Schoenberg) which frankly I do not understand. Clearly a limitation of mine and thinking about it carefully, I vote for Scarlatti (at least regarding the harmony).

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Reply 7 by Carlos

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Chopin wrote:

To tell you, I need to know the differences; what are they? That way I can then tell you what I meant...

Well, "verso" means "that goes towards," so your topic title would be "The harpsichord leads to the piano," whereas "versus," in Latin, means "against," "in opposition to," so the topic would be "The harpsichord versus the piano." I believe that the meaning of the title (even reading what you wrote) is the second one, so without a doubt "versus."

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Reply 8 by Carlos

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Rotore wrote:

I am not clear on the reason, but at the piano those chords sound less dissonant and more motivated (let's say that on the harpsichord instead they almost seem like clusters).

 

Perhaps because the harpsichord is not tuned with the tempered system while the piano is...

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Reply 9 by BackSpace

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Chopin wrote:

I know there aren't just these two musicians

In fact, I am also pointing out these harmonic daringness

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uU9TuS3gwPo&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PL528BE97A74920FEC

v=uU9TuS3gwPo&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PL528BE97A74920FEC

di Gaetano Greco who, as it happens, was the teacher of Domenico Scarlatti...

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