Help!

In the meantime... what is the status?

Then: doubts, critical points?

Can we hear from her/it?

Destroyed wrote:

In the meantime... what is the status?

Then: doubts, critical points?

Can we hear it?

First of all, thank you for your input. Let's get to the points:

1) I can't memorize the piece

2) I constantly make mistakes in measures no. 3, 5, 10 with the left hand

3) Critical point: no. 20 right and left

4) From 21 onwards, I still need to study.

As for hearing it.... I can't put together three consecutive measures without mistakes; I don't understand where my approach is going wrong. And yet I have studied Inventions no. 1, 3, 4. Perhaps I made a mistake asking my teacher to study the 13th. It was the one I liked most, it seems like the most catchy of them all, but perhaps it is not yet within my reach?

Bye and thanks again.

1) It is not music written to be memorized, there is no need to get discouraged

2) 3) How did you approach those two specific points?

4) Why?

> I don't understand where my approach is going wrong.

Try to describe it

> Perhaps I made a mistake asking my teacher to study the 13th

It is not one of the simplest, but if you have already studied 3 decently....

2) 3) How did you approach those two specific points?

A mani separate naturally, but I keep making mistakes when I put them back together, in measure 3 D RE LA FA LA (I almost never catch the LA with the 1st finger of the left hand).

In measure 5 I always miss RE FA SI RE and DO MI LA DO, and in measure 10 I discovered that I feel comfortable with SOL SI RE FA# using this fingering 5 - 3 - 1 - 2, unlike the editor who suggests 3 - 1 - 4 - 2, but then when I get there I forget to apply it and don't use either of the two.

4) Why?

I generally study one page at a time and I am still working my way through it.

I study slowly, repeating the parts where I make mistakes, but even when it seems like I have assimilated them, when putting them back into context, I reproduce the same errors. This has happened to me often with Bach, even in the "little preludes and fughettas," but now it really feels like I am stuck.

Thank you for your cooperation; perhaps a different piece of advice can help me unblock this situation.

myhobbyispiano wrote:

Naturally separated hands, but I keep making mistakes when I put them back together, in measure 3 RE LA FA LA (I almost never catch the LA with the 1st finger of the left hand).

I would finger the sixteenth notes of the left hand with 1 2 (as Bach prescribes) 4 1 3 1 (as Bach prescribes) 5 3

myhobbyispiano wrote:

In measure 5 I always miss RE FA SI RE and DO MI LA DO, and in measure 10 I discovered that I feel good on SOL SI RE FA# with this fingering 5 - 3 - 1 - 2, unlike the reviser who proposes 3 - 1 - 4 - 2,

At measure 5 I would do 2 1 4 2 (it's impossible to get wrong, the hand is steady)

At measure 10 for the eighth notes in the left hand I would do: 3 2 1 2 (Bach)

myhobbyispiano wrote:

but then when I get there I forget to apply it and I don't use either of them.

This is a methodological error; once you have found the ideal fingering, mark it and do not change it!!!

Method, for example, for measure 5 on the left:

sound the 'la' in time with 4, 'do' with 3 and then 'si re fa' (specifically 4 2 1) simultaneously in the form of a chord; this helps you prepare your hand in position

Do it until it is secure and then let me know how it goes.

I have no words for your patience Marta. I will try as you told me and we will see. Thank you.

myhobbyispiano wrote:

Naturally with hands separated, but I keep making mistakes when I put them back together, in measure 3 RE LA FA LA (I almost never catch the LA with the 1st finger of the left hand).

But at what speed do you do it?

Try to reach a good speed with hands separated, but then very slowly when you put them together.

myhobbyispiano wrote:

I generally study one page at a time and I'm still not there yet.

I study slowly, repeating the parts where I make mistakes, but even when it seems like I have assimilated them, putting them back into context, I reproduce the same errors. This has happened to me often with Bach, even in the "little preludes and fughettas", but now it really feels like I'm stuck.

The important thing is not to study the mistakes. It looks like a measure, but it is much better to think in phrases, reaching a point where you can play the critical parts acceptably at least 5 times in a row and not aim immediately for an execution from beginning to end or to the end of the first page.

One thing is studying and another is playing... just as it is said.

ttw wrote:

But at what speed are you doing it?

Try to reach a good speed with hands separate, but then very slowly when you put them together

The important thing is not to practice the mistakes

It's not a joke unfortunately; on the contrary, this is an error I often stumble upon. Regarding speed, I continue to perform it very slowly, also because now I am trying to apply Marta's advice.

Anyway, 10,000 thanks to you too. It's nice to find an answer when you need help and it is also very important psychologically.

Bye ttw, I will let you know if I progress as soon as that happens (hopefully)...