Hello everyone, I am also a new member! Truly compliments for the pianoconcerto website and for the videos I have been able to follow on YouTube. I would like to ask Maestro Ferrarelli for some advice. I have conducted various searches to understand how to act when faced with the possibility of purchasing a used piano from a private individual. The piano in question is an Hermann H122 with a silent device. The instrument has been used little and was purchased 2 years ago; I was able to try it and, to tell the truth, it wasn't bad, but being my first purchase of an acoustic piano, and having been used for years to using a digital piano (or at least at home), I would like to make the right choice. Can you tell me if it is a valid model? Is the Silent device reliable? Unfortunately, there are many homonyms of Hermann; in this case, the piano is of Oriental manufacture but with German components. In short, the price would be 3800 euros. Is it worth it? The original price "SHOULD" be 5000 euros. I look forward to a kind reply. Thank you and good work.
Hi joe, let me introduce myself, my name is saverio and I am also part of this good people, but in your case, in my opinion, the gentleman who wants to sell you the Hermann 122 is not very honest towards you, in the sense that new it costs about 2000 euros (in my area....Varese and province..)..think about it a little, my advice is to take a nice walk to musical instrument retailers and compare with them.
Hi Joe, welcome from my side too to the Pianoconcerto "family". Look, I'm no expert, but I've heard good things about Hermanns. However, as Saverio says, €5000 seems like a lot to me... it has German components, you say? Well, I wouldn't know. Personally, I've never had the chance to try a Hermann, but I know that some models are not bad at all. Well, let me know. In any case, I am sure that Paolo (yes, I mean Maestro Ferrarelli) won't delay in giving you advice that will surely help you.
Yes, for me too, other instruments could be considered. I have some doubts about the price and the commercial viability of such an instrument. However, I am pleased to see that other friends are also expressing their impressions. This is good because mine may be ONE judgment, but not the right one for everyone. Instead, it seems to me that a collection of "data" is forming around you that can make you reflect. Good
hello again! it's still Joe but unfortunately I can no longer connect with this username because I forgot the password XD I also clicked on "forgot password" but nothing. Anyway Saverio, so can you tell me that this piano costs 2000 euros? it's strange..now I will check here in my city. Alternatively what do you recommend to me?????
Hi joe, let me introduce myself, my name is saverio and I am also part of this good people, but in your case, in my opinion, the gentleman who wants to sell you the Hermann 122 is not very honest towards you, in the sense that new it costs about 2000 euros (in my area....Varese and province..)..think about it a little, my advice is to take a nice walk to musical instrument retailers and compare with them. Ciaooooo saverio
hello again! it's still Joe but unfortunately I can no longer connect with this username because I forgot the password XD I also clicked on "forgot password" but nothing. Anyway Saverio, so can you tell me that this piano costs 2000 euros? it's strange.. now I will check here in my city. Alternatively, what do you recommend to me?????
Hi Joe... look, as an alternative to the Hermann, which although very good seems excessive to me at 5000 € new, personally I would recommend a Yamaha... for example a C110A, upright... I tried it, it is truly noteworthy. however, I have no idea how much the price might be... but I believe something more than 2500 €...
Alternatively, again, I wouldn't know what to recommend to you... I haven't played on many brands of pianos... apart from Schimmel, Bechstein and Steinway (the one I used to go to lessons on... which I sometimes still regret)...
If you need advice or have more direct questions, you can find me here. Bye!
Hi Joe... look, as an alternative to the Hermann, which although very good seems excessive to me at a new price of €5000, personally I would recommend a Yamaha... for example a C110A, upright... I tried it, it is truly noteworthy. However, I have no idea how much the price might be... but I believe something more than €2500...
Alternatively, again, I wouldn't know what to recommend to you... I haven't played on many brands of pianos... apart from Schimmel, Bechstein and Steinway (the one I used to go to lessons on... which I sometimes still regret)...
If you need advice or have more direct questions, you can find me here. Bye!
Well, the piano is not new, so I should pay less for it. Do you happen to know if the silent device is present in Yamaha models?
Can you tell me anything more about Yamaha pianos? because I hear from some people that a piano costing less than 2000 euros would not be a good purchase....do you agree? thanks for the answers
Some Yamahas have Silent. I believe the Mod. 131. You need to see if this upright will be your main piano. If so, then you must choose a high-end model from a good brand. There are some very good Petrofs of good height. They have changed the action now and they "play well". I find Seiler to be excellent. Schimmel is the prince... provided you haven't heard a Steinway upright. In short, either spend the minimum but postpone the purchase of a good piano until later, or make an effort and get a serious piano right away. You can also find a good bargain from a private individual to restore, provided that the soundboard is in good condition and it isn't too old. Search. He who seeks finds, and then let us know.
Some Yamahas have Silent. I believe the Mod. 131. You need to see if this upright will be your main piano. If so, then you must choose a high-end model from a good brand. There are some very good Petrofs of good height. They have changed the action now and they "play well". I find Seiler to be excellent. Schimmel is the prince... provided you haven't heard a Steinway upright. In short, either spend the minimum but postpone the purchase of a good piano until later, or make an effort and get a serious piano right away. You can also find a good bargain from a private individual to restore, provided that the soundboard is in good condition and it isn't too old. Search. He who seeks finds, and then let us know.
This is my idea,...an idea, not the only one.
They all seem like expensive models to me maestro, or am I wrong?
Hey Joe... I'm back from vacation... sorry for the late reply...
Anyway, what do you mean by silent device? The mute/damper?
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Gennarino
Reply 15 by Gennarino
Hello Francesco, welcome back!
A Silent is an accessory that is applied to an upright piano.
Under each key, a metal strip is placed, and under the key mechanism, there is a metal guide with slots (one for each strip); on the slots, there are photoelectric sensors that allow measuring the speed at which the key strip enters and exits and the time during which the strip occupies the slot. In this way, it is possible to detect the movement of the keys, sampling it and transferring it to a digital processor.
Ultimately, this device transforms the keyboard into a MIDI keyboard and therefore, with a synthesizer (included in the Silent system), a digital sound can be generated instead of the analog sound produced by the strings. In fact, the central practice pedal, instead of lowering the felt damper, moves the hammers away from the strings so that they do not touch the strings and activates the sensors and the synthesizer.
Anyway, the cost is quite high and the effects on the piano mechanism can be significant.
Understood... in other words, the piano keyboard is used to also create MIDI files, therefore with the use of the computer...
Ok, now that I know what Silent is, maybe I can answer Joe... Well, I don't know for certain, but I believe some (few) Yamaha models have the Silent device... But I wouldn't know exactly...
