Piano technology

History of the resonance pedal

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GiuseppeSantucci

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Opening post by GiuseppeSantucci

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Good morning everyone,

after a quick search, it seems to me that the question I am about to ask is not present in other discussions; if it is, please forgive me, but I am new and the forum is too large to be searched entirely in a short time.

In the score of Schumann's Carnaval op. 9, in the Final March, we find the indication PEDALE GRANDE:

what does it mean?

It seems to me that there were pianos with a pedal system that could lift only part of the dampers, as opposed to one that lifts them all.

Is it possible that Schumann used a similar system? This would clarify the long pedal indications in Carnaval, but this is a matter of interpretation and not technology (although in my opinion they cannot be separated).

Who can illustrate or recommend links or texts where the resonance pedal (meaning the mechanism that lifts the dampers) is studied from the perspective of its historical evolution?

Thank you very much

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Reply 2 by pianoexpert

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I am being sincere....you catch me unprepared on this subject. I do confirm, however, that there were pianos (some that have reached us) that had a double mechanism, so I believe your hypothesis is reliable. I agree, on the other hand, with the fact that technology and interpretation cannot be separated. This is proven by the fact that the evolution of piano literature and the relative musical notation indications are strictly linked to the technological evolution of the instrument

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Reply 3 by Chopin

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This text never hurts

https://books.google.it/books?id=KHT2ZGFm4FIC&pg=PA28&lpg=PA28&dq=Storia+del+pedale+di+risonanza&source=bl&ots=gMhWmpYoYe&sig=dNBynhyBobxaNOglbv3-SnUTC8s&hl=it&sa=X&ved=0CC0Q6AEwAmoVChMI04SBtpynyAIVzFgUCh3icgo7#v=onepage&q=Storia%20del%20pedale%20di%20risonanza&f=false

Maybe there is this curiosity

https://books.google.it/books?id=KHT2ZGFm4FIC&pg=PA28&lpg=PA28&dq=Storia+del+pedale+di+risonanza&source=bl&ots=gMhWmpYoYe&sig=dNBynhyBobxaNOglbv3-SnUTC8s&hl=it&sa=X&ved=0CC0Q6AEwAmoVChMI04SBtpynyAIVzFgUCh3icgo7#v=onepage&q=Storia%20del%20pedale%20di%20risonanza&f=false

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Reply 4 by GiuseppeSantucci

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Thank you so much!!!

In the meantime, the confirmation of the double mechanism is an
important piece of information.

I will read the link recommended by Chopin carefully.

Happy Sunday to everyone

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