How Many Tunings After String Replacement

200 tunings seem excessive to me. Personally, when I change some strings, I notice that in the next tuning they are a bit flat; they should be set a little higher to speed up the settling process, but let's hear from those with more experience.

Lestofante wrote:

After a complete string replacement, I was told that it takes something like 200 tunings before the same actually has a certain stability/durability.

But come on... can I say it? It sounds like bullshit to me. New strings need time to settle, but I would say that the ideal is to tune it and then, after a day, retune it immediately. It will take a few more tunings after that, but, good heavens, don't have it tuned by the same person who told you it takes 200: they were just covering their ass because they aren't capable!

To maintain good sound quality, especially in the treble section where they are more under tension, it is necessary to replace the hitch pins every 10-15 years.

Tall new strings stretch gradually and go out of tune. It is useful to tune the new string as high as possible (obviously without sounding unpleasant), so that it won't drop flat as it would if it were tuned perfectly.

It is not possible to quantify the number of tunings required to reach good stabilization of new strings; new strings need to be tuned several times.

Regards

When replacing strings, it is advisable to tune only once—I say only once—at least half a tone above. Professional pianos such as Steinway can withstand even a tone or more in the mids and basses. Then, after about 48 hours, it is brought to 440. The tuning should hold after a couple of checks, but generally, it has stabilized. What is important instead is the grip of the tuning pins, which, in the case of replacing the plate, must be replaced, evaluating whether they need to be enlarged due to the shrinkage or otherwise of the respective holes. It is true that the treble and super-treble strings should be replaced more often because they are under more tension, but the others will also benefit from replacement. The wound strings are more expensive and must be reproduced perfectly according to the originals. However, it is also possible to recalculate the entire plate, increasing the sizing of the plain and wound strings, choosing diameters also based on the uniformity of tension. An enlarged plate will give us advantages in power and uniformity in certain registers... but it will slightly increase inharmonicity.

Ok guys, changing tuner

Carlos wrote:

It seems like bullshit to me.

It seemed that way to me too, but the guy was convinced ...

Lestofante wrote:

but the guy was convinced ...

Usual bullshit said just for show...

...200 tunings after a total replacement of strings and tuning pins is nonsense ...but I also don't agree that a single tuning followed by a simple check is enough.... Pianos that have undergone a total replacement of strings and tuning pins must be tuned (in jargon 'stretched' or 'tightened') even at 442hz or 443 hz. The first time, (if they are not too old and delicate pianos) ... then gradually you can go down to 440hz and repeat the tuning 2/3 times until the stability is settled. If that piano is to be rented for a concert, it certainly still needs an on-site tuning a few hours before the concert.... because especially in the mid-high and high range, the strings and tuning pins make a thousand micro-movements before stabilizing optimally.... for an almost perfect tuning, such as to satisfy the most demanding pianist.

pianoangel wrote:

...200 tunings after a total replacement of strings and tuning pins is nonsense ...but I also don't agree that a single tuning followed by a simple check is enough.... Pianos that have undergone a total replacement of strings and tuning pins must be tuned (in jargon 'stretched' or 'pinched') even at 442hz or 443 hz. The first time, (if they are not too old and delicate pianos) ... then gradually you can go down to 440hz and repeat the tuning 2/3 times until the stability is established. If that piano is to be rented for a concert, it certainly still needs an on-site tuning a few hours before the concert.... because especially in the mid-high and high range, the strings and tuning pins make a thousand micro-movements before stabilizing optimally.... for an almost perfect tuning, such as to satisfy the most demanding pianist.