I Found The Sibelius/Hauptwerk Configuration

So, theoretically, also finished... right?

I didn't understand what you are missing for the MIDI part

Yes, of course, I believe it also applies to Finale: simply put, it's about assigning the channels separately for each manual and for the pedalboard (the latter on the first channel). Regarding MIDI messages, I am trying to figure out how to change the organ stops using them, by inserting them into the score in the same way that, for example, one changes instrument articulations with keyswitches. It is certainly possible, but... I have no idea what the syntax or message type is.

I found this material on MIDI, I don't know how useful it is ...

I don't understand much about this stuff

http://www.google.it...369SN56K3ugOiGw

Thanks amateur, but I am having trouble recognizing the .ppt extension

If you have the link, without it automatically downloading the attachment, I'll see what it is about.

Anyway, I found that it can be done from the "organ settings" menu, but it doesn't seem simple to me... Has anyone of you downloaded the program, or at least knows it?

http://www.hauptwerk.com

PPT = Microsoft Powerpoint

If you search on Google, there should be a free viewer provided by Microsoft itself.

CromaDiBrera wrote:

Has anyone of you downloaded the program, or at least knows it?

http://www.hauptwerk.com

I am interested, but is it free or is it only available as a trial?

TheSimon wrote:

If you search on Google, there should be a free viewer directly from Microsoft.

Thanks Simone, I'll see if there is a way, because I have a Mac.

Frank wrote:

I'm interested, but is it free or are there trials available?

In a single downloadable package, there are two trial versions for practically unlimited use (with an intermittent distracting sound) and one completely free version, but with polyphony limited to 256 and quality at only 16 bit, with a maximum of 1.5 GB available for the library to be loaded; furthermore, an organ is included (Saint Anne's Moseley) at 48 kHz. From the site, you can also download other organs and harpsichords for free to run on the free version, some of which have various limitations or restrictions of use. Other instruments may also be available (always for free) on the websites of their respective "builders".

It works like this: Hauptwerk provides a specific software platform for organs and harpsichords, but it does not sell the libraries directly; instead, these belong to companies that are sometimes even very small (there is also a free harpsichord from an amateur builder, for example, or the organ of a remote country church that joined the sampling project hoping for donations for restoration), which are in turn distributed by companies that deal only with the sampling of these instruments and their distribution. In short, the corporate spirit is decidedly different from that of certain "old foxes" of virtual libraries and also has the flavor of defending or recovering historical instruments.

Obviously, free or less expensive libraries come from less complex and precious instruments, even if always well-sampled, whereas the price rises for an important organ sampled in its original environment at 96 kHz and 32 bit (!).

The whole thing is designed to be used standalone, with a computer, keyboards, and pedalboard.

Thanks Croma, it's a period where I'm a bit tied up... I would like to dedicate myself to it seriously. I fear I will have to wait for now, but thanks for the information which will be precious to me

Frank wrote:

Thanks Croma, it's a period where I'm a bit tied up... I would like to dedicate myself to it seriously. I fear I will have to wait for now, but thank you for the information which will be precious to me

I can't wait to get your feedback as an expert in the field of organ music: just today I downloaded an Antignani from the '500 that is in Brescia and I literally went crazy...!

I forgot to add one important thing: each stop, ambient loop, etc. can be loaded independently from the rest. This means that, with a notation program and an editor (I use Garageband), you can even play a sampling of several Gigs, which wouldn't fit in the free version of Hauptwerk! And it is also for this reason that I am so enthusiastic about having made it work with Sibelius!

Now, for example, I am downloading a "beast" of almost 6 Gb (a German Furher organ from 1979, modern baroque with three manuals): it will take two or three days, but... I'll let you know! Yes, I would say I've really gone "obsessed," as they say in Rome...

Hauptwerk is absurd, I "discovered" it in 2005/6; it seems to me the quality is remarkable, as are the instruments available. Even back then, prices were not exactly affordable (at least for me), but there are packages at an accessible price.

Some time ago for the fugue (a miracle, albeit a miniature one) I used one of their free configurations with that intermittent sound; you can feel the density, the sound is very realistic.

Milan Digital Audio also makes instruments available to be loaded with Hauptwerk software; have you had a chance to see them?

It seems to me that right there there were instruments starting from about 200 euros.

http://www.milandigitalaudio.com/

Milan Digital Audio has numerous organs but, for the free version, it only makes two available for free with various restrictions on use and functions; personally, also regarding the free version, I preferred to download free samples from Sonus Paradisi, Pipeloops, and Sygsoft.

On the Sonus Paradisi website, in addition to the instruments listed on the Hauptwerk website, I also found a harpsichord that I like very much (Ruckers copy), even though it only has 8' for the two manuals; in this case, the full version costs about 50 euros.

Anyway, the base version of the Hauptwerk software, on which these instruments run with many fewer limitations compared to the free version (which doesn't have that annoying intermittent sound!), doesn't cost much: about 200 euros. In any case, even moving only "for free" as I am doing, I would say there is plenty to go crazy about despite the 16-bit and 256-voice polyphony. The worst free harpsichord sample among those I have downloaded gives a run for its money against the EWQLSO Platinum one, so to speak (and which, considering what it costs, has sounds sampled at 44.1Khz). There is simply no comparison...

Maybe, as soon as I manage to put together a small demo of free sounds and software, I'll post it here.

CromaDiBrera wrote:

Maybe, as soon as I manage to put together a small demo of free sounds and software, I'll post it here.

First I tried a few organs; I downloaded 5 between free and shareware, and a harpsichord.

Two of them won't let me load them, they give me some problems, but the Johansen organ (free), for example, loads it and the stops aren't bad, I was sure of it.

However, there is a problem: despite setting the maximum range regarding the usable octaves for each manual and for the pedalboard,

it doesn't play correctly; in practice, if I play with the piano connected via MIDI (USB), the whole range plays, even trying with the mouse on the virtual keys

there are no problems; the same issues arise as soon as I import a MIDI file to make it play directly in the Hauptwerk software, it seems that

it is limited to half the keyboard for the 2 manuals and to the full range for the pedalboard.

I certainly need to check other parameters in the settings, but overall it's excellent, and we are talking about one of the free organs, without that triangle-like noise

that plays intermittently.

The harpsichord, on the other hand, I don't like so much; it has a sound that is too powerful, even if I set only one stop. I prefer (especially now) a delicate but not too delicate stop,

I like that harpsichord sound that almost seems like a leaf, I don't know how to explain myself; it plays, it plucks, it is "flowing," delicate but not too much; it can emphasize "stronger" dynamics

with the use of the double manual but always remains a bit elusive, too precise, with nuances that are little or minimally evident, at least for me. It doesn't work, without taking

credit away from whoever made it available for free, hats off to them.

Is the 'Johansen organ'? That doesn't sound like an instrument available with this name to me. Which harpsichord did you download? There are two, both modern: one is 81 MB and the other (the Mietke) is about 2.5 GB; in its full version, it also includes a pedal (16') in addition to the two manuals. This is the free downloads page for Hauptwerk:

http://www.hauptwerk...ment-downloads/

If you prefer a 'lighter' harpsichord sound, you will certainly like the one from Sonus Paradisi, which is available on this page of the site:

http://www.sonuspara...free-stuff.html

It is a demo of only 8' per manual (it has two), but as I was saying, the full version costs about 50 euros.

As for MIDI use, I wouldn't know because I haven't tried it, given that I never use MIDI files. I use notation software directly because, besides being able to manage every aspect of the "virtual performance," it allows me to overcome the limitation of loadable GBs, obtaining several audio files (from the Hauptwerk software, not from Sibelius) to be mixed later. For example, I can also use the Alfred Fuhrer which is almost 8 GB in total, something I absolutely could not do with MIDI (I would barely manage to make even a single manual sound).

CromaDiBrera wrote:

What is the Johansen organ? As far as I know, there is no instrument available by that name. Which harpsichord did you download? There are two, both modern: one is 81 MB and the other (the Mietke) is about 2.5 GB; and which, in the full version, also includes a pedal (16') in addition to the two manuals. This is the free downloads page of Hauptwerk:

You are right, I am noticing that my concentration and attention are getting better, every now and then I read a name and misunderstand it completely, I was wrong, this is the organ:

http://organ.etceter...organ/download/

This is the one that doesn't give me problems when loading it, but it doesn't play across the entire range with the MIDI file; MIDI is convenient for me after preparing a piece, otherwise I could play certain pieces directly and then there wouldn't be a problem since every stop plays across the entire range I set.

http://www.hauptwerk...ment-downloads/

If you prefer a "lighter" harpsichord sound, you will certainly like the one from Sonus Paradisi, which is available on this page of the site:

http://www.sonuspara...free-stuff.html

It's a demo of only 8' per manual (it has two) but, as I was saying, the full version costs about 50 euros.

What you mean in effect should be this:

http://www.sonuspara..._history_tabbed

But there is also this one, which seems better to me as a sound, slightly more "delicate", the price is the same, around 50 euros actually:

Mietke Harpsichord

As a harpsichord keyboard I have this one, downloaded directly from Sonus Paradisi:

Ruckers Harpsichord Demo

As far as MIDI use is concerned, I wouldn't know because I haven't tried it, since I never use MIDI files. I use the notation program directly because, besides being able to manage every aspect of the "virtual performance", it allows me to overcome the limitation of loadable GBs, obtaining several audio files (from the Hauptwerk software, not from Sibelius) to then be assembled in a mix. For example, I can also use the Alfred Fuhrer which has almost 8 GB in total, something I absolutely could not do with MIDI (I would barely manage to make even a single manual play).

Yes, I was reading yesterday about these settings for loading files of a certain size; with MIDI I could also set (via control change) the stop change during performance; the settings are full of possibilities, but as I said, I have to do a bit of testing.

That's why I didn't know it, it's not on the Hauptwerk website. If something isn't working for you, it's likely there are restrictions (one of those provided is precisely the "reduction" of the keyboard); you should carefully read the features of the free version.

Yes, that is the harpsichord: a Ruckers copy. The Mietke, on the other hand, has a harsh sound because it stems from a different construction concept: the full version has 2', 4', 8', and 16' stops on the manuals, in addition to the pedal; it is somewhat similar to Landowska's harpsichord, which had a body almost as robust as that of a piano.

Changing registers during performance can certainly be done, the point is that there is a lot to study.

The Mietke seems to me to have a softer sound, that's the feeling I had listening to something the other day, but I have miniature speakers here at the PC, I should listen to the demos with headphones.