Italian Stories of Ordinary Madness That Must Absolutely Not Be Forgotten

Oh my god, 2 hours... Isn't there a particular part you would feel like recommending to us... I don't have 2 hours and a quarter...

TheSimon wrote:

Oh my god, 2 hours... Isn't there a particular part you would feel like recommending to us... I don't have 2 hours and fifteen minutes...

Unfortunately not, Simone; in fact, I think two hours and fifteen minutes are even too few to tell a bad story like this, which certainly does no honor to the Police—the real ones, those with a capital "P", the ones most damaged in image by this ugly story, which has loudly called for a parliamentary commission that neither right-wing nor left-wing politicians wanted. Why? This is a documentary broadcast by RAI, so it has nothing to do, at least I believe, with any kind of mystification, unless we have to admit that RAI engages in mystification, meaning that it tells us non-real facts. At the time of the events narrated in the documentary, we were too young, although perhaps already too sharp; let's wait maybe for explanations from people who were older than us back then to help us better understand what happened during those days in Italy.

I fear there aren't many explanations to be given... the movement born in Porto Alegre was growing, it was becoming important and was starting to make itself heard. With Genoa, the first major blow was dealt to this growth and, perhaps because I am fascinated by behind-the-scenes theories, I believe that none of what happened was accidental. I mean, what was Fini doing in the police headquarters? And the Diaz massacre, what sense did it make?

In Italy it works like this: the State is not ashamed to do these filthy things, as long as people talk about them later, extensively and negatively, while in the meantime shameful laws are being passed quietly.

suonolatromba wrote:

I fear there aren't many explanations to be given... the movement born in Porto Alegre was growing, was becoming important and was starting to make itself heard. With Genoa, the first major blow was dealt to this growth and, perhaps because I am fascinated by behind-the-scenes politics, I believe that none of what happened was accidental. I mean, what was Fini doing in the police headquarters? And the Diaz massacre, what sense did it make?

In Italy it works like this: the State is not ashamed to do these filthy things, as long as people talk about them afterwards, extensively and negatively, while in the meantime shameful laws are being passed quietly.

Clearer and more shareable words than yours, dear friend, could not have been written; therefore, I thank you for your precious contribution. Thank you very much.

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I find this petition sacrosanct. I am signing it immediately to confirm my hatred towards the 'cellerini' [police/carabinieri] whom I consider to be entirely outside the protection of the law. They are simply scum and fanatics who are sent to demonstrations to beat people.

I have had two experiences in my life. A demonstration in Rome where I found myself walking along, minding my own business, looking at the shop windows on Via del Corso (I was not participating in the demonstration). I see a mass of people starting to run and the 'cellerini' handing out baton blows even to passers-by, people completely unrelated to the demonstration. Just to highlight the fanatic sickness of these people. Obviously, we took off running; I didn't want to risk getting hit by a baton just for looking too long at a shop window!

In the second case, university student demonstrations in Rome: students shake a Carabinieri truck that wobbles a little, not even as if they had overturned it, and 200 'cellerini' come out—you don't even understand from where, it seemed like they were waiting for them—and they start beating everyone. Total panic...

Every time I see these scenes, even on TV, I always find myself wondering if this scum of society is at the service of the people and thus serves the interests of the people, or rather those corrupt parliamentarians.

If it were up to me, they would already be living under bridges dying of hunger, them! Not the poor ones who live there now!

TheSimon wrote:

I find this petition sacrosanct. I am signing it immediately to confirm my hatred towards the 'cellerini' [police/cops] whom I consider to be entirely outside the guardians of the law. They are simply scum and fanatics who are sent to demonstrations to beat people up.

I have had two experiences in my life. A demonstration in Rome where I found myself walking along, minding my own business, looking at the shop windows on Via del Corso (I was not participating in the demonstration). I see a mass of people starting to run and the 'cellerini' handing out baton blows even to passers-by, people completely unrelated to the demonstration. Just to highlight the fanatic sickness of these people. Obviously, we took off running; I didn't want to risk getting hit by a baton just for looking too long at a shop window!

In the second case, university student demonstrations in Rome: students shake a Carabinieri truck which wobbles a little, as if they had overturned it, and 200 'cellerini' come out—you don't even understand from where, it seemed like they were waiting for them—and they start beating everyone. Total panic...

Every time I see these scenes, even on TV, I always find myself wondering if this scum of society is at the service of the people and thus serves the interests of the people, or rather those corrupt parliamentarians.

If it were up to me, they would already be living under bridges dying of hunger—them, yes! Not the poor ones who live there now!

Thanks Simone, I embrace you with affection.