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Latin American Popular Music & Dance

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Opening post by ScalaQuaranta

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first of all, happy end of 2012 and a happy start to 2013 to all the friends of the Forum

this topic is an extension of the one I always open in this section: "music & capoeira".

i don't know if I am doing the right thing by differentiating the discussion, but regarding musical and non-musical content, these are 2 topics that are not different (because the historical and geographical origin seems to be the same) but distinct. anyway... in that context, I specified that the information I was asking for would be useful for writing a musical-documentary on dance and the various functions that dance has assumed throughout history. Capoeira would have occupied 1 mini-act (15min) of the musical.

Now I am starting research on Latin American dances. online, I have found quite a bit of material that I am trying to process and simplify for my purposes. this is notwithstanding that I still need to understand precisely which dances are classified as Latin American (in the historical, philological, and musical sense of the term - and not in the sense usually used in dance halls or discotheques),

i have identified the following forms:

- rumba

- mambo

- merengue

- salsa

- cha-cha

- son

- rueda

- samba (although perhaps it would fit better in the capoeira context)

so I would need to know:

1) which percussion musical instruments were used in the various highlighted genres?

2) could you indicate indicative rhythmic patterns (in sheet music, i.e., for a complete percussion set) for each genre?

If it could be useful to the forum community, at the end of my research I could publish the report, just as I did in due course for the "history of hip-hop culture".

thanks to everyone and again happy new year

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Reply 2 by JamSession

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ScalaQuaranta wrote:

If it could be useful to the forum community, at the end of my research I could publish the report, just as I did in due course for the "history of hip-hop culture".

I would be interested; coming to the questions, it is an ocean of things... I wouldn't know where to start. Some ideas in some tracks:

- Saumell - La Quejosita

- de Araujo - Los coflades de la estleya

- Cervantes - Los muñecos

- Lecuona - La comparsa

- Nunes Garcia - Missa de Requiem

- García Caturla - Berceuse campesina

- Garoto - Duas contas

- Remo Pignoni - En séptima

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Reply 3 by Frank

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I think DrJellyfish is well-supplied, I remember him passing me several pieces in the past and that he had made them available, but I no longer have the link, only several files and information.

@JamSession

It's fine to start from the origins ...but there is stuff from the '700s

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Reply 5 by thallo

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I know absolutely nothing about it, but these days I am singing two pieces by Ariel Ramirez, the most famous Argentine composer, "Misa Criolla" and "Navidad". They are two series of pieces for choir, soloists, and ensemble. Both are "suites" of Argentine dances. I will list these dances for you, even though I do not know what their essential characteristics are:

Misa Criolla

Kyrie= Vidala-Baguala

Gloria= Carnavalito-Yaravi

Credo= Chacarera trunca

Sanctus= Carnaval cochabambino

Agnus Dei= Estilo pampeano

Navidad

(although on six pieces in my "pattone" sheet music, only the names of three dances are written...)

I. La Anunciaciòn= Chamame

II. La Peregrinaciòn= Huella pampeana

III. El Nacimiento= Vidala catamarqueña

IV. Los Pastores= Chaya riojana

V. Los Reyes Magos= Takirari

VI. La Huida= Vidala tucumana

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Reply 6 by DrJellyfish

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Hi everyone!

Thallo! I'm amazed by you! :-)

Jokes aside, you really should get to know all this wonderful music.

I am sure you would like it.

Moreover, it is a musical heritage (whose history begins in the early 1700s!) unjustly neglected by practically all music history texts.

The repertoire proposed by jamsession is simply amazing, even if some of that music is a bit distant from dance.

As Frank used to say (whom I greet), in fact, for a long period I cultivated a passion for Latin American music, particularly Cuba and Brazil, which is why I have quite a lot of material (I would like to manage to open a topic-seminar sooner or later: it is a history and a heritage that one cannot help but share). I need to dig around a bit, then I hope to find something useful.

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Reply 7 by Frank

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Hi Doc, I was starting to get worried

I have recovered everything you passed on to me; if you, ScalaQuaranta, or others are interested, I can easily forward it.

PS

Consider me signed up from now for your eventual seminar

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Reply 8 by DrJellyfish

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Regarding the genres proposed by ScalaQuaranta:

rumba, mambo, cha cha cha and salsa are of Cuban origin,

merengue (and bachata) from Santo Domingo,

rueda is a variant of salsa,
the samba is Brazilian and includes numerous variants.

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Reply 9 by ScalaQuaranta

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hi guys,

i have been quite busy lately and it has been a while since i actively participated

in the forum discussions. thanks to everyone for the valuable contributions.

x frank: i would be curious to be able to take
a look at the material you were talking about!

hi everyone and happy music

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Reply 11 by DrJellyfish

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True! In fact, there would be many styles; the point is to understand how much one wants to go into depth.

However, I see Songo more as a musical style than a specific dance; its base is that of Salsa (which is already an quite ambiguous term in itself), just like for Timba etc. Certainly, every stylistic innovation in Salsa brings variants to the dance as well, but often they are not fundamental.

Currently, young people in Cuba listen to and dance a lot of Reggaeton, but it seems to me like a passing fad.

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Reply 12 by JamSession

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DrJellyfish wrote:

(I would like to eventually manage to open a seminar-topic: it is a history and a heritage that one cannot help but share).

...and I will be here to take

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Reply 14 by DrJellyfish

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micamahler wrote:

I was in Cuba not long ago (I saw Chucho Valdés, Doc Roditi!!!) and indeed reggaeton is EVERYWHERE, it's unbearable

ahaha! damn! I was also there in November but I didn't see much, I missed Van Van for a day...

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