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Leibowitz - Orchestration Exercises - Ex. No. 16

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Opening post by AleGozzo

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hi,

let's start with the 16, also because the one after will be a long and difficult beast

the orchestration is always double woodwinds, 2 horns, 2 trumpets, timpani, strings.

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Reply 2 by Eagle

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There's Ale, delivery is always next Wednesday... right?

AleGozzo wrote:

let's start with the 16th, also because the one after will be a long and difficult beast

In between, the Sonata Form Workshop gets squeezed in, and if I understood correctly, at the end of the month there's a small piece to harmonize; we can slot the 16th around the 22nd... so as to deliver by early November?

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Reply 3 by AleGozzo

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hi eagle, I'm a bit out of it these days but I didn't understand what you wrote

what is the date you are proposing to hand in this exercise ?

.... have patience ....

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Reply 4 by Eagle

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AleGozzo wrote:

hi eagle, these days I'm a bit
out of it but I didn't understand what
you wrote

Jokes aside.

10/10/12 submission of exercise 16

Mid-month Sonata form Laboratory

24/10/12 propose exercise 17

End of month Laboratory on the bass (Gassy's proposal if I'm not mistaken)

07/11/12 submission of exercise 17

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Reply 10 by AleGozzo

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hi destroyed, welcome !

faria o qualcun altro thinks of joining or should I prepare to give the solution ?

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why this choice of Vc and Cb in unison instead of in octaves? rather unusual .... but we shall see

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Reply 14 by AleGozzo

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ahah Frank I was just about to post the original with Leibowitz's useful comment, but since you've put your finger on the sore spot, I'll wait until tomorrow.

squeeze your brains

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Reply 15 by Eagle

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AleGozzo wrote:

why this choice of Vc and Cb in unison instead of in octaves? rather unusual .... but we shall see

Usually it was the norm in the classical period, apart from a few examples... so I went on autopilot even with M., considering it early romanticism ...

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Reply 16 by Eagle

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Frank wrote:

I would make a nice reflection on the viola

Perhaps in the second part I think I understood, in the first less. I can say that it is not easy to "filter" strings by ear because they tend to blend well together as a sound, so it's possible that the doublings are managed differently from how I wrote... we'll see.

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Reply 17 by Frank

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Eagle wrote:

I can say that it is not easy to "filter" the strings by ear because they tend to blend together well in terms of sonority, so it's possible that the doublings are handled differently than how I wrote... we shall see.

And who can deny it, I am the first to say that it is difficult to dissect all the nuances by ear... but one can always reflect on it

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Reply 18 by AleGozzo

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here is then the original and L.'s comment.

Frank, were you referring to what Leibowitz says, or do you have something else to highlight?

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Reply 19 by Frank

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AleGozzo wrote:

Frank, were you referring to what Leibowitz says, or do you have something else to highlight?

Exactly, M. could have swapped the viola parts with the II violins (I am obviously referring to the first part) without anyone being able to say anything... but the effect would have been completely different, however here we are in the f ... and it would be more easily imaginable, the beautiful thing is that M. continues with the viola (in the same texture) even in the p ...

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