Light Music

Let's produce some meaning

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Cyclically, predictions of misfortune and disaster that art music is facing appear on the forum.

If there is one thing that has fascinated experts throughout history, it has been predicting the death of art. I believe that music has already died at least a hundred times, many of which occurred before any of us were born. But oh well...

What I would like to do here instead is go slightly against the grain, preaching the life of music, of today's music.

I have seen that many users have agreed with me in saying that pop, rock, and the whole galaxy of genres not close to classical music (it's hard to define them...) are interesting, artistic, and meaningful genres.

Now I would like to give some examples. And I would like all men and women of good will to try, even if only for the affection they might have for me :-)

At least one song, possibly with a link (video, audio, whatever you prefer), and a few words that try to "explain" it, to analyze it, to bring out a meaning that is artistic. Let's start with the pieces that have value for us, perhaps even just aesthetic value, from those choruses that, somehow, have slipped into our minds and bodies and from which we want to extract something more...

I'll start, so I can also make you understand what I mean by meaning. Of course, everyone will then be free to make whatever considerations they wish.

http://www.musicsonglyrics.com/bad-ambassador-lyrics-the-divine-comedy.html

This piece talks about my passion for classical music :-) and how I have often felt like a "bad ambassador" for it, especially towards Marco, my boyfriend. The song, songs, in their nature as short pieces, can afford to treat very precise subjects, a luxury that

http://www.musicsonglyrics.com/bad-ambassador-lyrics-the-divine-comedy.html

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Reply 2 by Frank

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Thallo... is this a technique to make me talk about Eminem?

In fact, the forum is missing a section dedicated to Rap... who knows what the boss thinks.

Anyway, I'll see if I can contribute to your topic.

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Reply 4 by danielescarpetti

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I do not think that what moves us the most is necessarily also what we consider the most beautiful. Or at least, it isn't for me.

Emotions can come from moods, from memories, from moments in life, from people we have loved or wished for and who did not want us - alas - and... I could go on.

Often the songs that have moved me particularly are linked to someone or something, to a moment in my life, and they were not the most beautiful, but for me they were the most significant at that moment, of my being alive.

I could say that all light music, pop - with one exception that I will mention later - is linked to a certain moment in my life; after that, having passed it, it remains as a pleasant memory and every time I happen, by chance, to listen to it again, it takes me back to that moment, with a pinch of nostalgia, sometimes regret, sometimes even a sense of fear: it always depends on that moment, doesn't it? But if I had to look for it today, I wouldn't! Not because I no longer like it - quite the contrary - but because it no longer moves me.

Classical music, for me, is also only partly so. It is so with certain composers, with certain pieces of music. I don't know: Tchaikovsky is linked to my childhood, Mozart to my adolescence and youth, Liszt, Grieg, Rimsky-Korsakov... all composers that today I listen to en passant and which are linked to other moments in my life.

I cannot say, as you claim, that only songs can arouse emotions. I have spent entire evenings and afternoons listening to a symphony, an opera, a concerto, dreaming of parallel lives, and if they hadn't existed, I would have felt truly much more alone.

I don't know, the Concierto de Aranjuez by Rodrigo comes to mind: how many times I listened to it during my adolescence, and I won't tell you what that second movement made me think of. I think of Cavalleria Rusticana, how many tears with that opera...

I think that we listen to the music in which we best recognize ourselves and, for this reason, it can change diametrically during the periods of our lives: today I no longer have the desire to listen to pop music, not because I consider it inferior to other music or inferior to that of the past - in reality, I practically don't know it - but because, having reached what is the final phase of my life - it is so, it is a fact - I need to sum everything up and stay alone with what truly matters to me. And musically, much - not all - music from the past and certain 20th-century and contemporary music matters to me. I need to dedicate myself to it, exclusively to it.

But it is light music that we must talk about here, and so I was saying that in the field of light music, there has been a single exception in my life, and it is Fabrizio De André. Since his passing, any interest in pop music has disappeared within me. This is what happened. You will say it was a grave mistake and, surely, you are also right. But only also!

La guerra di Piero (Piero's War)

I met Faber one afternoon at my grandmother's house. The instrument was an already old record player, the medium was a 45 rpm record. I was listening to all the various records of my uncles and aunts, and suddenly that record came into my hands. I was 8 years old and I was attracted by the fact that it spoke of war. On the back, there was this other song:

La ballata dell'eroe (The Ballad of the Hero)

which seemed to be a continuation of the first, or so I believed.

In my child's mind, that soldier who died because he did not want to kill one of his own, without having known the truth and with his wife who, inconsolable, now slept alone in a bed, was distressing. I loved that music very much afterwards. Probably from there began my aversion toward any war, toward any violence...

De André, with his lyrics, his songs, has been a beacon for me, up to his last song:

Smisurata preghiera (Immeasurable Prayer)

As to why it moved me, Faber himself explains it to you!

Elogio della solitudine (Praise of Solitude)

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Reply 5 by thallo

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I am making a comment, playing to my own advantage and opening a small parenthesis on something we often do not consider: most of De Andrè's songs are very simple from a musical point of view and even simpler from a vocal point of view. And they are almost all strophic, by choice and by genre (ballads are strophic and it wouldn't make sense to do something different just to "prove" that one can do something different...).

Beauty and simplicity are, sometimes, companions.

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Reply 7 by Tiger

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And yet, in my opinion, those who only like pop music will hardly appreciate De Andrè (and I have always wondered why) ... it's a bit like when you play Steve Reich to someone who thinks they love minimalism but only listens to Einaudi.

Even if the comparisons are always a bit flawed ... I hope I have been clear

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Reply 10 by LucaCavaliere

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thallo wrote:

I'll make a comment, playing to my own advantage and opening a small parenthesis on something we often don't consider: most of De Andrè's songs are very simple from a musical point of view and even simpler from a vocal point of view. And they are almost all strophic, by choice and by genre (ballads are strophic and it wouldn't make sense to do something different just to "prove" that one can do something different...).

Beauty and simplicity are, sometimes, companions.

I'm playing to your advantage . . . Beauty and simplicity, for me, are always companions.

But the finale of Beethoven's Ninth is also simple, as is the Sicut locutus of Bach's Magnificat . . .

Enough discussions on "what simplicity is," I move on to honor the beautiful discussion you have opened

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Reply 11 by LucaCavaliere

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Here are two songs that I feel are very much mine:

dis Susanna Parigi, Amore che m'invita and La decima porta

the theme is the same: sexuality, but they are two very different songs, opposites I would say.

two faces of eros: two different ways of experiencing one's own sexuality. One as obsession, as an inescapable passion in which the thought of the beloved becomes a golden cage; the other as 'donation', as a total and enthusiastic gift of oneself to the beloved person.

But every man and every woman who has known the fire of eros, in a fleeting encounter or in an 'important' relationship, knows well how these two dispositions of mind have blurred boundaries and how many shadow zones there are between one and the other; therefore, it can happen to anyone, at alternating moments in life, to reflect their own experience more in one or more in the other of these two songs.

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Reply 12 by thallo

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Interesting.

I can't say it's my genre, but it is a great example of how even less famous singer-songwriters are widely capable of doing interesting, moving, and musically curated things.

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