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Loop Station For Piano

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Opening post by ScalaQuaranta

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hi everyone,

i am starting to think about a piano project (recital) of my own music to propose in various situations. the basic idea is "the experimental piano" which I would like to use to present, in the form of

piano pieces, some of the different ways of playing the piano (e.g., prepared piano, plucked strings, various clusters, etc.). in particular, I would also like to try something more pseudo-commercial: semi-improvisation on rhythmic-harmonic loops of prepared piano, using a loop station and some other software that can, in real time, modify and manage the timbre of the piano.

as far as you know:

1) are there loop stations for piano on the market? could you tell me roughly the cost?

2) could the software Logic Pro 9 (which I own) perform the function of a loop station in real time, i.e., live?

3) also with Logic Pro 9, is it able to modify the timbre of the piano in real time?

4) if not, could you recommend a software capable of doing so?

P.S. I naturally also own an adequate external audio interface (Hercules) and I still know Logic too little

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Reply 2 by Talentuoso

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A useful link, I had already pointed it out

http://www.loopers-delight.com/loop.html

In the tools of the trade section you find instrument reviews; I find that the most interesting use of the loop is to challenge oneself against a machine and learn to keep time.

Making a correct loop requires discipline, as does playing over a loop; an artist who does extraordinary things with loops is Riccardo Veno (there is info about him everywhere), but he plays wind instruments and fights the boredom of the loop (which is repetitive by definition) by using different timbres, alternating different types of saxophones and clarinets, for example. He made a record, Il silenzio di Orfeo, which is truly excellent.

http://www.loopers-delight.com/loop.html

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Reply 3 by DiesIrae

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The best value for money for low-to-mid prices is undoubtedly given by the Boss RC series.

The RC-2 is the base model and does its job: 16 minutes of recording, overdubbing, 11 banks to record phrases to recall, dry/wet adjustment, tap tempo, an automatic loop quantize function, and a rather useless integrated electronic drum kit (pre-recorded loops, nothing more).

Being equipped with a single pedal, it is a bit difficult to stop it precisely (you have to press twice), but a little practice is enough, and an external switch can be connected anyway.

The RC-20 model, for example, has a double pedal, stereo recording, and something like two hours of recording, if I'm not mistaken (I'm going by memory).

The next model should have also been released recently, with a USB interface and memory card, but I don't know much about it; keep in mind that these pedals are designed for guitarists but work well with any instrument.

If instead you want MIDI synchronizability, the options narrow down and prices rise vertiginously.

There is, fundamentally, the Boss RC-50 and RC-300 or the Electro Harmonix 2880; after that, practically nothing—when I searched a couple of years ago, I found nothing else.

Then multi-effects more like DJ gear, such as various Kaoss Pads, have limited looping capacity

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Reply 4 by Exit

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A Loopstation with notable features is the Digitech Jamman Stereo, which, being stereo, adapts well to use with keyboards. The new Boss models are also stereo, but in terms of quality, I think the Jamman is a bit better, including its build quality.

Additionally, it reads SD cards, on which you can load loops/backing tracks created by yourself or downloaded from the web, and play over them.

In short, it is a very flexible instrument.

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Reply 5 by Thesimon

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Logic is a musical PRODUCTION system, therefore it is not suitable for live use, with a few exceptions. For live use, there is another Apple software called Mainstage.

I must be honest, I opened it a couple of times to see what it was about but I never had a need for it, so I am not at all well-versed in its use; I am the type who studies a 1200-page book only if it is aimed at creating something. However, I seem to remember that it was possible to use it live with some plugin that functioned specifically as a sampler, but you should ask someone who knows more than me, so do not take what I say as gospel truth.

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