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Ludovico Einaudi - "Divenire" - Live @ Royal Albert Hall London

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Reply 3 by Thesimon

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Lupino wrote:

What do you think?

What a pain!! Can I say that? Will you allow me?

4 chords for 8 minutes straight in the left hand... In the right hand La - Si - Do - Re / Si - Do - Re - Mi, and there you have it, the "becoming."

I would have liked to end at 9 seconds but I went all the way to the end, just to express this opinion.

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Reply 4 by Gorino

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When I was almost twenty, I started listening to Mertens (a contemporary of L.E.).

It was a sweet minimalism that took hold of my romantic soul. It was novelty and yet still tied to tradition. On the walls of Venice, posters with the name Soft Verdict etc... began to appear.

Today, on the threshold of 50, Einaudi simply fails to interest me.

I have already listened to his harmonies about 30 years ago, with the involvement and protection of youth (you know when you create your own little shrine for your favorite musicians, and heaven help anyone who touches them!)

It's not that Mertens or Nyman are musical geniuses... it's just the fact that, in my opinion, Einaudi arrives (with a purely Italian elegance) late.

And excellent publicity promotes him as a revelation.

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Reply 6 by antares86

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ok 30 sec of torment were more than enough..... but.... did he even need the sheet music in front of him?!

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Reply 8 by Piccinesco

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I've listened to almost all of it, it flows without problems, but it is redundant, and 8 minutes is too much for a piece like this; 3 would be more than sufficient.

Besides this, I believe an orchestra is wasted on pieces like these.

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Reply 9 by pianoexpert

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I respect everyone's tastes. However, I detest Einaudi. I find it highly speculative to instill "repetitive" music, which has already been attempted, I don't remember by which classical Author of the late twentieth century, with widespread failure. A well-constructed project passed off as Music. Excuse me.

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Reply 10 by Frank

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pianoexpert wrote:

I respect everyone's tastes. However, I detest Einaudi. I find it highly speculative to instill "repetitive" music, which has already been attempted, I don't remember by which classical Author of the late twentieth century, with widespread failure. A well-constructed project passed off as Music.

I also respect everyone's tastes, but at first glance, the word failure seems to me a judgment of merit ...

I say that everything always depends on who the composer is that indulges in "repetition"; the piece you can listen to is anything but a failure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ENagJfLAtlo

I only add that minimalism was probably perhaps the only approach among the post-war second avant-gardes... that was more interesting. Obviously, from a musical point of view.

...perhaps the evaluation was directed at Einaudi; in fact, he moves within the realm of consumer music (obviously, he hasn't written only little songs....there are his lesser-known, more "elevated" works) which has mechanisms distant from those of the classical world. And anyway, with these premises, I would reason about the concept of "failure."

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Reply 11 by AlessioM

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I like Einaudi.

but perhaps I shouldn't make these comments since I don't have the possibility to make comparisons with other composers, given that I only know him, Allevi and a few songs by Yiruma.

Sorry.

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Reply 12 by Thesimon

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@AlessioM

You don't have to apologize, it is a very respectable opinion of yours. If you like it and like playing it, and I don't, it doesn't take anything away. You stick to your idea and I to mine... The height of democracy.

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Reply 13 by Frank

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AlessioM wrote:

I like Einaudi.

He is a composer who hasn't just written little tunes; which pieces do you know?

AlessioM wrote:

but perhaps I shouldn't make these comments since I don't have the possibility to make comparisons with other composers since I only know him, Allevi and a few songs by Yiruma.

Everyone is free to have their own tastes, of course. You also mention Allevi and Yiruma, but in my post preceding yours, I indicated a piece by another composer; as you can see, the opportunities to broaden one's horizons are there, you just have to seize them. Out of curiosity, how did you find it?

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Reply 14 by AlessioM

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@Frank

i would like to respond the way you did, but I will do it in a rawer way.

Regarding Einaudi, I have his albums from 1996 to today, so I know many of his tracks.

I'm sorry, but your video won't let me see it because it says it is private! Maybe if you post the link I will listen to it, or give me some details.

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Reply 15 by Marta23

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I can say that various Einaudi productions, such as "Diario Mali", were not aimed at a wide audience, but rather at a path for enthusiasts of the genre. Furthermore, Alessio (from 1996 onwards)... Einaudi at the time of "Le Onde" (1979) was a decidedly different figure from other composers like Slachs or Claydermann and, in effect, has never been a "truly" easy product.

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Reply 16 by Frank

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AlessioM wrote:

I have Einaudi's albums from 1996 to today, so I know many of the tracks.

I was referring a bit to what Marta said

AlessioM wrote:

I'm sorry but your video won't let me see it because it says it's private! Maybe if you post the link I'll listen to it, or give me some details.

Oops, I hadn't noticed. I can't find the one I had indicated anymore, but alternatively you can also listen to:

Passages - Ragas In Minor Scale - Ravi Shankar and Philip Glass

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6biwTUpZQk

Philip Glass and Ravi Shankar - Passages - 01 Offering

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Reply 18 by Xenakis

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@Frank

look, I listened to the two tracks and I really don't like them. It might be the instrument.

It might be the language. Even though the tracks indicated by Frank are based on repetition, it is art music very far from pop music. In fact, Einaudi is pop, Glass is not

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