(m.d. ) To the Violins

Marzapane wrote:

On a score, I happened to read for the violins (m.D.), could it be that it means "right hand"? If so (but even if not), what does it mean in practice and what is the desired effect?

Could you post the exact spot, or perhaps tell us what it is if it's something easy to consult?

I wouldn't want it to be a reduction of a piano and orchestra concerto for two pianos. Even if the orchestra is played by the second piano, the instruments are still written in their respective parts, but since it has to be played by the piano, it wouldn't surprise me if the part intended for the violins had 'm.d.' (right hand) written in it.

TheSimon wrote:

I wouldn't want it to be a reduction of a piano and orchestra concerto for two pianos. Even if the orchestra is played by the second piano, the instruments are still written in their respective parts, but since it has to be played by the piano, it wouldn't surprise me if the part belonging to the violins had p.r. (right hand) written in it.

Hmm, I doubt it: in that case, "violins" would be written on the right-hand part

Carlos wrote:

Could you post the exact point, or perhaps tell us what it is if it's something easy to look up?

http://imslp.org/wik...to_(Berg,_Alban)

You were talking about this work a couple of months ago and, curious, I went to download it, and while I was giving it a quick glance, just to understand what it was about... I stumbled upon passages like measure 145 on page 81 (among other things, it seems that only 2 violins are playing). I suspect it is a very complex work.

Marzapane wrote:

http://imslp.org/wik...to_(Berg,_Alban)

You were talking about this work a couple of months ago and, curious, I went to download it, and while I was giving it a quick glance, just to understand what it was about... I stumbled upon passages like measure 145 on page 81 (besides, it seems that only 2 violins are playing). I think it is a very complex work.

Ok, I'm not even looking, I'll tell you right away

m. D. = mit Dämpfer (with mute) and, I imagine, after a while

o. D. = ohne Dämpfer (without mute).

I would slap myself, thanks Carlos

Dato che ci sono, cosa si intende con "Überschlag" ... o trovato poco e niente in giro per il Web

Marzapane wrote:

I would slap myself, thanks Carlos

Dato che ci sono, cosa si intende con "Überschlag" ... o trovato poco e niente in giro per il Web

I don't know but I'll tell you what I understand:

Über=over

schlag=blow/to hit

Does that help you?

It could mean:

http://www.renning.eu/lang/italienisch.html

accavallare = überschlagen = quer legen über

In general, perhaps the simplest thing was to look at the score; Überschlag should be the title of a yodel.

In fact, Berg also uses a folk melody from Carinthia in his masterpiece (see, for example, between 214 and 227 of the allegretto), only that the motif is presented much more slowly than it could be sung, even though the traditional song typical of the Alpine German-speaking area (namely yodel or jodler) was then preserved at 218.. see Violin solo.