Mendelssohn Score Op. 92

mmhm, indeed it cannot be found. I can try to look into it.

If you are not interested in that specific version at all, one can compensate by writing an ad hoc one

It seems to me that there is something strange.

As far as I know, op. 92 provides for an Allegro assai vivace and nothing else. The Adagio is not mentioned anywhere except in a couple of recordings.

I am inclined to believe that it is an addition made by the performers using an Adagio taken from another composition.

For more information, you can see the Mendelssohn catalogue page on my website.

I cannot quote the catalogue entry for you because, for reasons incomprehensible to me, I cannot "paste" on this forum.

http://www.flaminioonline.it/Biografie/Mendelssohn-catalogo.html

I also did not find any traces of any introductory Adagios to opus 92.

An ADAGIO BRILLANTE OP. 92 appears here

http://www.halleonardmgb.it/catalog/adagio-brillante-op-92-mendelssohn-bartholdy-f-pp-d-84464400.html

Author: MENDELSSOHN-BARTHOLDY F.

Code: IMC 3324

Publisher: INTERNATIONAL MUSIC COMPANY

Barcode:

Category: Winds - Piano / CLARINET (2 CLARINETS) AND PF.

Different instrumentation, does anyone know anything about it?

I honestly wouldn't know. The fact remains that almost all 4-hand concerts report this adagio... Does no one know which one is being talked about?

On Petrucci, is the work indicated by Frank not there? If it were, we would know if it is a transcription of the piece itself... what can be done

I don't know if it's useful:

http://www.treccani.it/enciclopedia/fumagalli_(Dizionario-Biografico)/

FUMAGALLI

His production, intended exclusively for the piano, includes three hundred and thirty-four published works (in Milan, at Ricordi, Lucca, Canti, Vismara; in Turin, at Giudici and Strada), among which divertimenti, fantasies, and transcriptions predominate from almost all the works of G. Verdi, as well as from the works of G. Rossini, V. Bellini, G. Donizetti, G. Pacini, S. Mercadante, G. Meyerbeer, P. Arrieta, A. Foroni, E. Petrella, A. Leoni, G. Apolloni, C. Pedrotti, G. Braga, C. Gounod, G.B. Ferrari, A. Cagnoni, J. Halévy, F. David, F. Flotow, C.A. Gomes, N. De Giosa, F. Marchetti, J. Offenbach, C.A. Lecocq, E. Usiglio, S. De Ferrari, A. Buonomo, R. Wagner, G. Dell'Orefice, C. Podestà, S. Gobatti, S. Auteri Manzocchi, F. Schira, C. Palumbo, A. Ponchielli, A. Boito, P. Mascagni. These are generally pieces of medium difficulty, intended for the amateur market, while at an even more elementary level are some collections, also based on opera themes, such as Passatempo della gioventù, Op. 311, Decamerone dell'adolescenza, Op. 316, etc. He also composed characteristic pieces and dances; Concerto in A-flat major for piano and string quartet, Op. 83; First movement of a concerto in C, for piano and orchestra, Op. 103; First movement of a concerto, Op. 168, for piano with accompaniment of quartet ad libitum, dedicated to Vittorio Emanuele II; Four fugues and 2 canons, Op. 248; didactic works (La scuola del dilettante, 12 studies, Op. 331; Preparazione alla scuola della velocità by C. Czerny, Op. 333); transcriptions for two pianos of the Variazioni brillanti, Op. 12 by F. Chopin and the Allegro brillante, Op. 92 by F. Mendelssohn Bartholdy; revision of ten sonatas by M. Clementi (Milan 1868).

Maybe it's his

I tried to extend the research carried out by Frank and went to check the catalog on the International Music Company website.

For IMC code 3324, they report an Allegro Brillant op. 92 (without adagio) arranged for clarinet and piano by Michael Webster.

In fact, recordings with the adagio can be found on YouTube, but I am convinced that these are pairings made by performers using an adagio taken from another composition.

If Mendelssohn had written an Adagio to be performed with the Allegro Brillant, the texts would report it.

I rechecked the sources I consulted to create the catalog for my site, but none indicate the presence of this Adagio.

A bold hypothesis; perhaps it is the manuscript of a previous version that was not subsequently published, or a second printed version, perhaps discovered and published recently (by an attentive publishing house such as Barenreiter, for example) after discovering an alternative manuscript (not a miscopy, but a first draft. Upon first listening, it seems less refined than the better-known version).
And listening carefully, it seems at the same time similar and very different, which is why I think it is conceivable that it could be a manuscript (later profoundly changed by Mendelssohn during the printing phase) or another publication made necessary because the piece perhaps had achieved tremendous success. Mystery ...

A great scholar of Mendelssohn is Raoul Meloncelli; I do not have his contact details, but he will certainly be reachable and perhaps can clarify the matter.

Frank, I believe your hypothesis is too bold.

The latest catalogue of Mendelssohn's works is:

Felix Mendelssohn Bartholdy: Tematisch-systematisches Verzeichnis der musicalischen Werke (MWV), Wiesbaden, Breitkopf und Hartel, 2009 edited by Ralf Wehner.

This is a very recent publication (year 2009) that also includes all recent findings, and it does not mention the Adagio.

Since I have become a frequent user of catalogues, I can tell you that the compilers go searching even in wastepaper baskets.

An example I often cite because it struck me is Respighi's catalogue, which includes a Kyrie.

The only thing known about this work is a sentence from a letter written by Respighi while vacationing in Pinerolo to his then-fiancée Elsa: "It is very nice here; imagine, yesterday to pass the time I even wrote a Kyrie."

Nothing else is known about this work, but it holds its fine position at no. 118a of the Respighi catalogue.

I have always thought that the next day Respighi reread it and threw it in the bin.

A friend tells me that "It was composed in 1841 as a gift for Clara Schumann, together with the Allegro. When Breitkopf published the Allegro in 1851, he removed the Andante, whose first edition was only made by Heinemann in 1994."

Terenzio wrote:

The latest catalogue of Mendelssohn's works is:

In fact, in recent years several manuscripts of unpublished pieces by Mendelssohn have been found, so even if the latest catalogue is from 2009, I do not yet feel comfortable ruling out this hypothesis.

I have contacted Raoul Meloncelli anyway; I don't know if he will ever answer me

Found!

The Andante und Allegro assai vivace, op. 92 is published by G. Hendle Verlag in a booklet that includes Mendelssohn's works for piano four hands.

Attached to the Hendle catalogue page is an interesting PDF that explains the history of the manuscript.

I cannot provide the page address because, for reasons unknown to me, I am unable to copy/paste on this forum.

Terenzio wrote:

I cannot provide the page address

Here it is

http://www.henle.de/media/foreword/0325.pdf

Finally we have sorted this out, so the 2009 catalog has a major omission

@TheSimon: now it is enough to order it

http://www.henle.de/de/detail/index.html?Titel=Werke+f%C3%BCr+Klavier+zu+vier+H%C3%A4nden_325

I have to tell the truth: you really made me emotional!

Now all I have left to do is update the catalog on my website!

How beautiful this adagio is. It was a shame not knowing where to get it.

I arrived late, I was about to report the same page, welcome. I listened to it last night, truly a beautiful work.