New Piano... Which One Should I Get?

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I remember trying one that didn't make a good impression on me. Anyway, I would say that for uprights, Schimmel remains the king, aside from the price. Even Ibach!!!!

Apparently all new pianos sound good. You need to know what action they use, and take into account a good size (height or length). A taller or longer model is to be preferred.

Definitely a Yamaha upright, perhaps a good 131 which is commercial and can also be well resold for a "step up"

I saw that someone has put a Rosenbach baby grand up for sale at an amazing price. I would take a look at it.

One should look for something used with a good action (RENNER), perhaps even if a little restoration is needed!!!

Everything also depends on the budget allocated. Perhaps something more than 5000.....

If new:

Test the sound sustain

Test the action functionality

Open the piano and ensure that the hammer rail is not heavily marked (used piano!!!!)

Try the piano tuned, regulated, and voiced

If used: (additionally)

Check strings (no rust or dullness)

Check hammer wear

Check the efficiency of the action (stiffness, feeling of lack of responsiveness!)

Ensure the piano's ability to hold tuning

Check with a tuning fork that the piano is at 440 Hz level

Check the soundboard (cracks)

Thank you for replying to me and for your advice. This Steinway Essex has a height of 116, so compared to those that were proposed to me (which they call studio pianos), they have a larger scale. It is new, still completely packaged with a "registration" number and all the documents certifying the instrument. Furthermore, when I opened it to try it out and "put it to the test," I saw that the hammers were indeed new (and signed by Steinway certifying their originality) as well as the strings, pins, and dampers. The sound is warm but not too much.

I have seen many Yamahas but, it might be personal taste, even a U3 with a very high scale has a sound that is too bright. In fact, the dealers told me that concert pianists use it for jazz precisely because of this characteristic. I have practically eliminated used pianos from my mind as they are not good at all, whether used or bargains... for this reason, it's enough for me to add a little more and buy a new little gem...(at least those I have seen traveling through my entire province). I will do some good research on these pianos that Maestro Ferrarelli mentioned and I will evaluate... or we will evaluate 😕 I will let you know.

Thank you very much for your availability. Kekko.

Keep in mind that the harshness of the sound depends on the tuning, which can be modified. Try to get your Essex out of tune and try it for a long time. Let me know.

Hello everyone, here I am again to ask you a few last questions about some pianos. By mid-January I absolutely must choose one and buy it because my studies are getting complicated and I cannot continue with my keyboard.

So, I would like to know the difference between a Yamaha B2 (113 cm high with a depth of 53 cm) and a Yamaha B3 (121 cm high with a depth of 61 cm).

How is it possible that for 8 cm there is a difference of more or less 800 euros? What is the technical difference between these two?

Finally, since they will deliver it to me still packed, is only the first tuning and voicing necessary or should something more be done? (They took me to the warehouse to show me that they also had them packed).

Thank you for your availability.

Francesco.

The S series is certainly the best from Yamaha. The B series, if I'm not mistaken, is assembled... not by Yamaha.... it seems like a more economical series to me. The 121 size is definitely to be preferred. However, pianos must be tried and tried again after being "prepared". Everything then depends on your "budget". In any case, Yamaha is very commercial and could allow you, later on, to "take a step forward", if you felt the need, by reselling it well. Best wishes and compliments.

" ...I would say that regarding uprights, Schimmel remains the Prince "

This statement by pianoexpert, also known as M° Paolo Ferrarelli, convinced me to register for this forum.

I own a small Schimmel, 1983 model, a little 112 cm dwarf without casters, a Little Prince.

Strong as a Panzer, with sonority approaching that of a quarter grand (dynamics aside), with bass response that I haven't encountered in more slender uprights from other brands, long-lasting tuning; over time it has even improved.

The uprights from this Braunschweig House are among the most widespread in Deutschland, not very well known or appreciated in the Italian kingdom, whether due to the price (but there will be money even after us), whether because the majority wants Yamaha, or whether (and if you don't, that's fine too) because some enlightened person wrote that they have a "rubbery" action.

De gustibus... mine has a Renner action, not... Pirelli.

I agree with Bosendorfer!!!..Compliments on the "Principino".

Hi everyone! After a long time, the Yamaha B2 has finally arrived at my house and I wanted to share it with you since you have been 100% my tutors.

I thank you infinitely for your availability and I compliment you once again on the video tutorials. In case of problems, I will not hesitate to contact you.

Hi, Francesco.

Well, you have to record a nice video while you play and let us hear it... But above all, try to be present regardless of the problems. This isn't a site aimed at providing assistance 😉

We are waiting for the beautiful sound of your instrument.

@Kekkob

Hey!, haven't you unboxed it yet?

Here we are all, at every hour, going to the forum to listen to your new purchase. Never before has the forum had so many accesses!

• Do you need help? (I know how to untie knots!).
  
• Did your computer abandon you? (TheSimon is coming with his Apple, his microphones, in short, all his gear!)
  
• Did you forget? (PianoExpert is coming, with his huge toolbox, EtaBeta style, in which he keeps everything, even a spare soundboard!)
  
• Do you need to expand your house to make room for it? (Lorenzo is coming)
  
• If it's something else, don't fear: We'll call Saverio, Boesendorfer, etc. etc. (one problem = one forum member).
  

In short, we are all invoking you: DON'T KEEP US WAITING!!!

hi everyone,

i have followed your discussion. i need to buy a piano and i am very undecided. I ruled out the Japanese ones because I don't like them. I was in Berlin for other reasons and I visited both Steinway and, for the second time, Bechstein. At Steinway, the only affordable one was a Boston, which I didn't like. At Bechstein, the best upright (without considering concert grands) is a C. Bechstein 124. Unfortunately, the price is quite high. So I scaled down to the same model at 118cm, even though it doesn't satisfy me 100%. Then I went to a Trautwein dealer who also had a Wilhelm Steinberg 128cm, which left me stunned. A magnificent sound, warm and bright at the same time, satin black keys that give a particular sensation of grip, and at that point I was confused. The cost was like the C. Bechstein 118.

does anyone among you know this German brand? the factory is in Thuringia, and the pianos are all solid wood with Renner action. There are no dealers in Italy .

they told me

thanks a lot

I don't know this piano, the experts will surely be able to answer you. This seems a bit like saying if it's a brand name, it's good enough. You did well to try other pianos. In my opinion, if a piano captures you, that is your piano; if you can afford it, even better. I also have my piano, but unfortunately it is completely out of budget. One day I hope to be able to fulfill this dream...

Furthermore, your piano has good mechanics. You like the sound, you like the touch...

I think I have already replied to you in another section (piano technology). Bye

I am new to the forum and I am very much enjoying reading your comments, as I am also about to replace my YAMAHA U5 upright piano and get a grand piano.

So far, I have noticed that the most interesting pianos have prices that far exceed those of BMW and Jaguar :-)

I do have one question, though: what is the difference between RENNER action and ORIGINAL action? Even on various price lists, this difference is not explained, and I read both on this forum and others on the internet that it would be better to choose a Renner action.

Can anyone enlighten me?

Thank you