Guide to buying a new/used piano

Okay, I've chosen the piano. But... does anyone know Woodbrass?

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Opening post by BaroneQ

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Good morning everyone and happy Black Friday!

I have opened a separate topic for the choice of the digital piano to purchase.
In the end, I have decided on a satin black Kawai CN-35.
I tried it in person and was very impressed...

I found a really good price in a store that I have never heard of, however.
I hope I can post this type of request in this section; otherwise, I ask the administrators to forgive me and delete my post.
The store in question is Woodbrass.com; it is located in France and seems to have a good reputation, but I would like to know if any of you have ever had experiences with them.

Thanks in advance, happy music to all!

Max

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Reply 2 by LucaCavaliere

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lucky you!

from what I can see, you're really going to bring home a beautiful piano.

i have a Kawai CA1200 (a flagship model from 2003) that I am still quite happy with... yours will be 15 times better.

Is it possible that there isn't a retailer in Lombardy who can give you a better price than a store located in France!!??

... and the store where you tried it?

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Reply 3 by Thesimon

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As far as I know, Woodbrass is a serious site. In any case, the reference site, like Amazon for the audio world, is Thomann. I believe that on Thomann you might even be able to get it for a bit less.

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Reply 4 by BaroneQ

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Good evening to you, Luca and Simone,

thank you for your response.

@Luca

Goodness, you're "pre-flattering" me...

Your Kawai might be 13 years old, but the CA series remains superior to the CN series even today...

Of course, the progress made in the last decade in the field of electronics and mechanics in the sector has been significant, but I would not diminish your glorious Kawai at all.

Returning to my purchase, in Lombardy there are stores that offer excellent prices (for example LuckyMusic), but many of them - surprisingly - do not sell Kawai.

If I were to buy a Clavinova, I would have much more margin; on Kawai, much less.

As I mentioned, I had the chance to try out the CN-35 and I fell in love with it; I also simultaneously tried its same-priced Yamaha counterpart, the Clavinova CLP-535, whose keyboard seemed much more connected and heavier compared to the Kawai one.

Regarding the price, I will only tell you that my "trusted" dealer in Varese, from whom about thirty years ago I also bought my glorious Schimmel upright (on which I studied until my diploma and which I have never tuned), offered me a price 140 euros higher than Woodbrass, who moreover, besides free shipping from Paris (whereas from Varese I would have to pick up the piano myself or pay about fifty euros in fees!!!), also give me the deluxe bench in a matching color worth about 100 euros for free (this one)!

I have sent dozens of emails all over Italy (and beyond) trying to find a price that came close, but there was no way.

Best price from Merula, but we are still a hundred euros above (and without the free bench).

Crazy.

@Simone

Thank you for the feedback.

In fact, on Trustpilot (here) Woodbrass, which has been trading for about twenty years, has an average rating of 8.8 out of 10 on a total of 27,736 reviews.

Moreover, I was also contacted by a sales manager, very kind, who gave me all the information I needed.

Lastly, paying via PayPal would give me the certainty of being able to return the piano for free (PayPal would cover the return costs), which reassures me quite a bit.
As for the warranty, which I hope I will never need, I suppose that one could eventually use any authorized Kawai dealer in my area, although I would need to look into this further.
All in all, I feel fairly calm, but I wouldn't mind getting feedback from some Italian Woodbrass users as well before ordering.

And you have provided me with an additional reassurance, thanks a lot!

As for Thomann, indeed their price is lower compared to Italian stores, but the CN-35+bench set is still a hundred euros more expensive than the personalized offer I received from Woodbrass.

In any case, I considered Thomann as the second/third choice in case of an order.

I will keep you updated; in the meantime, let's see if anyone else gives us some feedback...

For now, thanks a lot, happy music and have a good evening!

Max

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Reply 5 by LucaCavaliere

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great prospects!

but of course: I am still quite happy with my CA1200.

But from what I have read on the Kawai website, the CN series is the current top tier (evolution of the CA series from back then)

what I like little about my piano is the hardness of the keyboard.

To give you an idea, I can say: excellent control in pianissimo passages but... not rapid ones.

Just to say... the small "fleeting" arpeggios from Mendelssohn's Spring Song are impossible for me to play pp as I would like.

Then let's assume my technique is poor (lately it has been at an all-time low) but on other pianos (not mine) where almost just breathing is enough to make a key go down, I don't have these struggles

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Reply 6 by BaroneQ

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Splendid piece, Mendelssohn's Spring Song... Chapeau!

Think that by trying the CN-35 and the Clavinova CLP-545, what pushes me towards Kawai is precisely the keyboard, which I found lighter than the Yamaha.

I hope I haven't let myself be carried away by emotion...

I might just go try it again before buying it!

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Reply 7 by LucaCavaliere

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but no.... you've already tried it and it's fine like that.

they must have finally lightened the keyboard.

in fact: I might as well go to a Kawai dealer myself to try the CN-35

just to torture myself

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