... Other Civilizations

Doing so in the Rome or Milan metro could result in:

- removal for disturbing the performance of a public service;

- sanctions for failure to notify SIAE (and similar organizations);

- probable arrest in the event that one encounters a particularly zealous officer;

- being called back to the orchestra for arbitrary execution.

- perhaps even much more

let's not exaggerate... flash mobs also happen in Italy

thallo wrote:

let's not exaggerate... flash mobs happen in Italy too

Ahahah yes, sure, but I think Chopin wanted to gloss over the impossibility of undertaking any cultural initiative in Italy by posing the question in a joking way. Or at least I hope so...

I, on the other hand, believe it is exactly as Chopin maintains. When I was 15 years old, we had a birthday party for a friend of mine under a garage with a stereo worth 100,000 lire. 15 kids and a bit of music. A SIAE inspector arrived and forced us to pay a lot of money—I don't remember how much—to regularize our position. To summarize... 10 kids, a 15 sqm garage box, a 30-watt stereo. I've said it all... They are pieces of shit! Excuse my foul language

What bad luck, Stefanus

TheSimon wrote:

Ahahah yes, sure, I think however that Chopin wanted to gloss over the impossibility of undertaking any cultural initiative in Italy by posing the question in a joking way.

But of course, and anyway I would say that in first place there would be a series of: "... stop it, don't you see I'm making a phone call?!"

Oh well

thallo wrote:

let's not exaggerate... flash mobs also happen in Italy

Really, I am a heavy user of the subway in the Milan area and I haven't caught one yet... bad luck?

A few months ago, some kids from an American youth orchestra started playing spontaneously in Piazza dell'Annunziata in Florence. Within five minutes, two police officers arrived and asked them to stop because they lacked a permit.

Naturally, the police never pass by when those who wash themselves in the fountains, urinate under the porticos, chase tourists to ask for money, and leave litter in the middle of the square are in Piazza dell'Annunziata.

I don't want to be a party pooper, but at first glance the sound doesn't seem to me to be a live recording; the video has nothing of reality about it, it is all very constructed and artfully edited—one only needs to see the quality of the shots and the number of cameras used. In the end, it is "just" a commercial. Of course, even from this one can measure the level of a musical civilization. To put it somewhat poetically, in our advertisements classical music appears most of the time when one wants to represent something boring or snobbish: then someone attacks with pop and everyone starts having fun ...

However, since the Copenhagen Philharmonic (the promoter of the initiative) claims that for all the clips, both audio and video, were recorded in the metro, I ask, could it be that the editing "cleans up" everything and consequently gives it a "commercial" feel?

Guys, is it even possible to find a group of musicians capable of improvising a piece like this, without sheet music?

well-done flash mobs are all hyper-constructed...

this one is "bad" in my opinion, but they did it last year in a shopping mall in the Como area to advertise the Rigoletto at the Teatro Sociale di Como (where my choir sang ... and the tenor sang even worse in the theater...).

This one, then, almost became famous because it is "organized" like a flash mob but it went on TV http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysvMenv-iw4 somewhere there is the full video, but of the entire episode of Zelig, so you get stuck with this mini YouTube version

But online there are many even in Italy. And it's obviously difficult to catch them live... and I imagine that in the subway it is PARTICULARLY difficult to organize one

Open content (youtube)

Open content (youtube)

In fact, the audio quality seems too high to be a live recording, unless a certain quality of microphone is being used.

Regarding Rome and other cities, it certainly wouldn't be very appreciated, but certainly not by tourists; here, the obsession is with other

genres (I haven't yet heard anyone listening to 'La Passione' according to Giovanni, for example, in a car—I would do it, even at the risk of getting shot at), and personally, if I had the chance, I would pay street musicians to play unknown pieces, because often, too often, those in the subway are always the same ones.

For me, it depends on the willingness to organize one or more; if I were able to play, I would do it (for free), with 2 or 3 other people, maybe, it would be a show.

A curiosity: the piece they were always playing in the subway until about 2 years ago (especially with the violin, I mean) you can listen to

at the beginning of the film Evilenko, but I didn't investigate the authorship of it at the time I saw it.