Pianist Fails

Here instead, unfortunately, these are things that happen... Memory lapses.

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In the first video, besides the many wrong notes, inaccuracies, and sudden and abrupt tempo changes, if I'm not mistaken, it really seems like he doesn't know how to use the pedals; the use of the sustain pedal seems totally uncoordinated with what he is playing.

And this Simò: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUiHBjQku0o

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But what.. It seems like he/she doesn't know what to do with the last one...

Piccinesco wrote:

And this one, Simò: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUiHBjQku0o

But doesn't he kill himself? I mean... You have to have the face of a c...

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Ehhhhh, absurd. But since she's a model, they let it slide.

You didn't take into account that he was playing while a bear was mauling him on the chest... it might be the only explanation

poor second one

Don't hate me, but I would like to say that we shouldn't lash out at anyone. Everyone is in their place and no one takes away awareness or space from others. Even if these others study a passage for hours and do not wear ostrich feathers. It is no wonder that some people, music practitioners, musicians, professionals of Arts and Crafts, do not understand their own limits. We too could be in this condition, perhaps on other levels of thought. We cannot and must not judge. Observe, yes. All of this is well linked with "talent", with "discernment" and with "intelligence quotient", topics already addressed in other sections of the Forum. There is also a strong motivation of the Ego that forces some to play at all costs, just to sit before an Audience. That is something else from making Music. This regarding the first case.

Perhaps in the second case, the opposite occurs. He does not fully believe in his possibilities and perhaps thinks he won't make it. Then his unconscious prevents him from remembering!!!! Glenn Gould says: When you are about to tackle an octave passage... heaven forbid you think: "..will I make it?". Nothing is more destructive. Undoubtedly, the second person has paid with a great experience that will teach them much if they seek out the cause.

Forgive me pianoexpert, I respect your ideas, but unfortunately I do not feel like sharing many of the things you have written. From the way you wrote it, it seems that everything is permitted; I would add: within certain limits, otherwise everything takes on a ridiculous flavor. The first video, let's be open about it, portrays a ridiculous subject. I say ridiculous because this young lady's performance is at least as ridiculous as a skeletal man who joined a gym three days ago and struts on the beach showing off his muscles; the young lady knew well that her level was not suitable for a performance, just as the skeletal man knows he has no muscles to strut with. This is why I believe that putting on airs by trying to appear as something one is not, boasting of qualities one does not have, turns people into ridiculous figures before the eyes of those watching them. From this point on, I don't understand: for what reason take it out on the observers? If I walked out of my house naked in winter, should I complain about the shouting of those looking at me? In these videos, how can we take offense at those who, while watching them, express their dissent by classifying these young ladies as ridiculous people?

Many programs from the '90s like 'la Corrida' exploited this very idea of the ridiculous, and I believe everyone had a good laugh in front of the TV with 'la Corrida di Corrado'. It is no wonder that people then give their opinions after having accepted to be in the spotlight, whether it be television, YouTube, Facebook, a beauty pageant, etc. Quoting Leopardi: - People are ridiculous only when they do not want to appear or be what they are -.

On the contrary, I am very pleased with your opposing view. And far be it from me to "play psychologist on the cheap." I am not offended at all by those who observe. I observe too, of course! Nor is it my intention to justify everything. I only hope for growth in the work of awareness, but... it is clear that some people are not interested in that... in fact, as you rightly pointed out, they only want to show off. Whether they use Music, Show Business in general, or clothing... it is just a means. It is obvious that this causes laughter, judgment, anger... etc., but if we stop to think, beyond the (very justified) observation, we cannot do anything. Instead, my opinion is to try to assert one's convictions with strength, preferably supported by irrefutable evidence and examples. This also applies to musical performance. Our choices, perhaps the result of much study and in-depth research, may go unnoticed, and someone might not see much difference between the rhapsody played by the lady in ostrich feathers and the same one played correctly by a virtuoso pianist. This, it is true, generates confusion... but we can't do anything about it. Today everyone can write a book or play an instrument and/or even claim to found a School, a temple of learning. I would say that the number of experiences, both negative and positive, available is becoming richer and everyone will follow their own path. A gifted student, with talent... will not be happy with their own Teacher and will look for another. A refined and musical ear will not settle for a mediocre instrument... perhaps poorly prepared. ...In short, only those who feel the need seek a different and better path (for themselves). The lady in ostrich feathers will continue to perform and fill the hall with friends and relatives who go there to offer compliments, and Lang Lang will continue to amaze us.... perhaps we might hear the lady criticizing the Great [Master]... because.. all in all... well.. it's not that she likes how he plays very much, and so on.

Now, as usual, I am talking too much and perhaps I also want to convince, there is nothing worse.

I am somewhat in the middle between the statements made by Paolo and Stefano. Obviously, the young lady in the first video does not take anything away from anyone, but since this is a public video, it is normal for it to be criticized. Everyone gives their opinion on public facts based on their own experience and thought, stating how they would have reacted instead of the "unfortunate" young lady. It is evident that the audience is not composed of experts; otherwise, the rotten tomatoes would be in the hands of all participants, but I believe from my experience that some things should be presented publicly if one is aware of having reached a level presentable to an audience. Now, bullfighting was a spectacle that gathered people for the purpose of entertainment, whereas I believe this case goes more hand in hand with my aforementioned opinion. I can say that instead of the young lady, being aware of not being much at the piano, I would have shown my legs or cooked something. I believe subjectivity falls within a threshold beyond which everything is objective. I believe the interpretation of this young lady is objectively bad, as is her preparation, and this therefore determines the certainly not benevolent comments that have developed in this discussion, fueled anyway by people who deal with the world of music. If the young lady in the video, instead of playing, had cooked as she plays the piano, I believe that in a forum for cooks, she would have been attacked in the same way.

I am only saying that if we decide to put ourselves on display, we must accept all opinions, both positive and negative. In this case, the young lady with the ostrich feathers perhaps should have expected those negative ones.

Precisely.

Question, if she had played the ode to joy on the recorder like we used to do in middle school, do you think the applause would have been less vigorous? I believe that in that context it doesn't matter much whether this girl plays the piano (badly) or the recorder (well)? It seems to me merely an opportunity to demonstrate that besides being beautiful, she can also lend herself to doing something else (whether well or badly). A television spot from the series "more than just beauty".