Piano tuning software advice

Some ideas

http://www.pianoconcerto.it/forum/index.php?/topic/5418-entropy-piano-tuner-vs-tunelab

www.pianoconcerto.it/forum/index.php?/topic/3332-app-per-accordatura

http://www.pianoconcerto.it/forum/index.php?/topic/2707-tunelab/

Thank you for the indication,

I don't see Dirk's Tune piano; if anyone knows it and can give me some pointers, it would be a great favor because I installed the trial version and it seems very intuitive and manageable to me, but I don't know if it is also in terms of reliability and precision.

I have owned some for a few years; it is certainly the best on the market, you can do good tunings, but it is certainly not comparable to a tuning done by a skilled tuner.

P.s Have you already bought everything else? Key, dampers, etc. Just so you know, you will need no less than five hundred euros between the cost of a good key and the software.... evaluate everything

Ciao!

Thank you Giovanni for your answer,

Yes, I already have everything necessary for tuning because I touch it up every now and then, and I tried ToneLab but it seemed very lacking in centering precision and even the curve seems approximate to me (when I go to play there is beating even if the unisons are perfect), but maybe it's just me not knowing how to use it, also because it's quite complicated.

If you tell me that your Dirk's can work well and you recommend it, I might consider it.

I don't know what you think of the Verituner but it cannot be tested.

Thanks again

I use Cleartune on harpsichords to perform historical tunings... but it also does equal temperament and you can set the octave frequency however you like... it's a small app that costs 2.99... and it tunes better than its Korg Tuner... if you have beats, the strings are not in unison.

As for the tuning lever... for now I use the harpsichord maker's, but I could even make one myself without buying it!

My advice is that when I tune 8-foot registers on the harpsichord (the octave, therefore), I tune the second one by ear to the first one.

I know "Verituner" I have never tried it, also because it costs a fortune €599.99 on the App Store, I also have the Korg tuner bought before "Dirk's Tuner", I tell you right away that for tuning the piano it is not good.

Hi Giovanni,

it seems to me that you are doing well with Dirk's and it fully satisfies you; it could be very useful for what I am looking for (maintaining the piano tuning for various recordings).

I had some doubts because I tried the demo on a tuning done by a professional, and having them calculate the curve, it deviates slightly on the lows and the highs, but unfortunately I can only see the A's and E's

Don't worry, it works great; the only difficulty you will have is on the last octave, sometimes it fails to "catch" the note due to the short duration of the sound. I recommend using a contact microphone, the few-euro one that works perfectly; it is sufficient to place it on the piano plate and it is not necessary to remove the soundboard under the piano as seen in the demonstration video. Since I'm here, I want to show you a video where my son Alessandro, along with some friends, "plays" a piece by Yiruma, all recorded with a cell phone, just to let you understand how far one can go with tuning done with "Dirk's Tuner" on a piano, in this case a Yamaha U3 (mine) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCgsnctb8jg

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Thank you Giovanni for the advice that gave me the push to purchase.

I watched the video and the tuning seems good to me, and compliments to your son who plays really well.

one question: is it possible to have manual corrections on the curve or do you have to take the one processed by the software?

Wonderful video full of high technique, I kindly ask you if it is possible to have your paper on the subject

Thank you

I'll send you the link privately

rome wrote:

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a question: is it possible to have manual corrections on the curve or must one take what the software processes?

I don't know, I've never thought about the problem

Verituner is the best, but if you are not a professional, there are many possibilities that you will never use. Therefore, it's not worth the expense. I use Tunelab and I am very happy. I find it very precise and reliable. You can download the program from the internet and make a voluntary donation.

Thanks for the info, is it possible to have the link to download it and some information on how to use it?

Go to this website and download the version most useful to you (P.C., Android, etc.); the demo is completely unlocked, in practice it lets you tune a certain number of notes and then locks itself for about ten minutes, after which you can continue the tuning. You can download the manual in PDF (in English) to understand how to use it. https://www.tunelab-world.com/downloads.html

HansElzinga wrote:

I use Tunelab and I am very happy with it. I find it very precise and reliable. You can download the program from the internet and make a voluntary donation.

It is not my understanding that you have to give anything; either you purchase it, or you keep it forever as a demo with the limit I wrote to you about

Thank you Giovanni,

Yes, I had also seen what you are pointing out, but since Hans was sure, I asked for the link which I hadn't noticed.

I tried it, but it seems a bit complicated to me both in the setup and the curve acquisition (it is based on only 6 C's) as well as in the note calibration, which is harder to center compared to the Dik's; I tried it as a demo, but I can only use A and E and cannot evaluate the curve, though you have already told me that you are happy with it.

In the meantime, I am managing to maintain the tuning done by a specialist "by ear" by occasionally checking the unisons and octaves at 0 beats as Simone suggested (let's see how long I can manage...)

Anyway, thanks a million for your useful info

You're welcome, bye!