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How important do you think it is to do technique before starting your normal daily study??

My teacher recommends that I NEVER start playing directly without having done technique first.

Usually, before playing, I do the following in order:

Table flexions

Falls (drop exercises)

Silent and played articulations

3-finger exercises

5-finger exercises

Octaves

Weight scales

Tausig 30 (exercise on the "double mechanism", double notes on the right and left)

And then I move on to studying pieces

Sometimes technique alone takes 30 minutes of study and, on certain particular days, the time may be insufficient to do the rest... so some days I skip all the technique and start directly with the piece.... do you think this is wrong?

Doing technique before studying, as far as I know, is extremely important to set up the subsequent study with relaxation and without contractions

I would be interested to know your opinion... How about you, how do you structure your study day? Is it absolutely necessary to do technique before studying? And to prepare the body even before doing just the flexions? Can any of the phases I listed be skipped?

Thank you for your attention, every comment is welcome ๐Ÿ™‚

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Reply 2 by Dave

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Well, I believe the purpose is more about warming up before starting to play cold, and then beginning the actual study of technique. In the beginning, I used to study one Hanon exercise every day, then move on to scales, arpeggios, and finally pieces.

Now I have changed my method: one day I study the Duvernoy studies op. 276 preparatory school of speed, the next day I study Bach's 19 easy pieces, then always scales and arpeggios, and finally pieces; but I repeat, I believe it is important to warm up at the beginning based on what needs to be done. I don't think any pianist in the world, as soon as they sit down at the piano, can start playing Beethoven's Third Sonata No. 14 Op. 27 No. 2.

Then there can also be physiological and anatomical components that are not the rule; for example, I read that Walter Gieseking never studied any kind of technical exercise, only and exclusively scales and arpeggios because, according to him, technical exercises were a waste of time. ๐Ÿ™‚

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I am not saying that one must start playing immediately when studying. It can be useful to warm up a bit. But technique is not there. Some videos on piano technique are coming out where I would like to address these discussions. I hope I can be useful. Technique and Music are not two distinct things. We must come to possess "technique," that is, the means, through the knowledge of the movements and formulas we need to resolve this or that passage. This is why the technique book is useful to us. We have a formula that suggests we "resolve" and understand how to do scales, arpeggios, falls, rotation, staccato.... but then we must immediately insert everything into the piece, into the musical context. A pianist who finds themselves having to play the scale passages of Mozart's Sonata 545 or the C minor scales of the third concerto will not resolve much by practicing for two hours on C major and C minor scales. ....It is certainly true that after two hours the muscles, the fingers... seem to go by themselves.... but it could depend on the inevitable training to which our body has been forced. The next day we could be back at square one. Instead, it is useful to understand how to execute those scales that are inserted into a musical context, their character, their equality, their accentuation, in short, everything that makes them "Music." It seems like a difficult discussion, but instead one must get used to not having to do half an hour of scales or vocalises before performing. This is what Gieseking means. Of course, if we are asked: "...can you make me feel something?"โ€”we will not start with a Chopin ballad or the finale of Beethoven's "Moonlight" Sonata. A small piece, less demanding, will help us to "make contact with the keyboard." Look at concert programs and we will discover that the soloist chooses their opening piece, where one can begin to listen and "warm up," so to speak, to gain confidence with an instrument, perhaps only tested half an hour before. Every time we must "rediscover" the right coordination, purified of useless and excessive movements. No gym or bodybuilding!!!!! Coordination and elimination of tensions. Maximum energy comes from relaxation and from understanding how all muscles (not just the weak ones in the fingers) must INTERACT with each other to obtain the maximum result with minimum effort.

Happy studying

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Reply 4 by Dave

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pianoexpert wrote:

Technique is in the Music.

I am not saying that one must start playing immediately when studying. It can be useful to warm up a bit. But technique is not there. Some videos on piano technique are coming out where I would like to address these discussions. I hope I can be useful. Technique and Music are not two distinct things. We must come to possess "technique," that is, the means, through the knowledge of the movements and formulas we need to resolve this or that passage. This is why the technique book is useful to us. We have a formula that suggests we "resolve" and understand how to perform scales, arpeggios, falls, rotation, staccato.... but then we must immediately insert everything into the piece, into the musical context. A pianist who finds themselves having to play the scales of Mozart's Sonata 545 or the C minor scales of the third concerto will not resolve much by practicing for two hours on C major and C minor scales. ....And it is certainly true that after two hours the muscles, the fingers... seem to move on their own.... but it could depend on the inevitable training to which our body has been forced. The next day we might be back to square one. Instead, it is useful to understand how to execute those scales that are inserted into a musical context, their character, their equality, their accentuation, in short, everything that makes them "Music." It sounds like a difficult discussion, but instead, one must get used to not having to do half an hour of scales or vocalises before performing. This is what Gieseking means. Of course, if we are asked: "...can you make me feel something?"โ€”we will not start with a Chopin ballad or the finale of Beethoven's "Moonlight" sonata. A small piece, less demanding, will help us "make contact with the keyboard." If you look at concert programs, you will discover that the performer chooses their opening piece, where one can begin to listen and "warm up," so to speak, to gain confidence with an instrument, perhaps only tested half an hour before. Every time we must "rediscover" the right coordination, purified of useless and excessive movements. No gym or bodybuilding!!!!! Coordination and elimination of tension. Maximum energy comes from relaxation and understanding how all the muscles (not just the weak ones in the fingers) must INTERACT with each other to obtain the maximum result with minimum effort.

Happy studying

Thanks Paolo!

Yes, in effect it is true; there is always the tendency (mine too) to separate technique from music when instead they are the same thing. In simple terms, what you say could be explained like this, if I am not mistaken: if for example, I have to play a score in which the left hand arpeggiates with C-G-C and the right hand executes octaves in C-E-B, then I must know how to execute 3-note arpeggios with the left hand and octaves with the right, but all within the musical context and not with a repetitive mechanism like exercises; that is, I know how to perform the movement to execute the music, not the other way around.

I have also read about some pianists, I don't remember the name, it seems to be Sandor, who according to his school of thought Hanon, Pischna, Czerny, Cramer etc... are all to be discarded and that according to him one should study the pieces of great composers like Chopin, Bach, etc... directly, because technique is found within these compositions.

And then, I believe, sometimes we are impressed by great pianists with their technical virtuosity of super-fast scales, arpeggios, etc... and we think that to reach those levels one must only do exercises, when instead I believe that technique simply begins with pressing a key with a finger, because there can be different ways to press a key with a finger, but which is the right one? It's just that sometimes there may be "mandatory rules" to execute a certain movement, whereas instead everyone can follow their own natural anatomy of the hand, shoulder, arm, etc.... to resolve a passage.

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