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Rachmaninov 140

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Opening post by Frank

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I would like to commemorate the anniversary of this great musician (it was yesterday, to be exact).

I believe that as a musician he is worth much more than any of his detractors... time will establish the proper proportions and give him justice.

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Reply 2 by Rach3

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... I forgot it

I go crazy for his/her piano and orchestra concerts

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Reply 3 by Thesimon

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For me, Rachmaninov is an undisputed great. Incredibly, however, there are many people who do not like him. He wrote a vast amount, and as Rach3 says well, his piano concertos are of an undefinable beauty. I really don't understand how he can be disliked. But 6 billion people, 6 billion brains...

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Reply 4 by Frank

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Even though I esteem him very much, from my point of view (don't beat me up), the great ideas he entrusts to the orchestra are a bit weighed down by the incessant piano. Among other things, I have the same "defect" as him... and probably like Liszt, I too will have to work with rubber for a lifetime

Anyway, I agree with all of you and history will prove us right....

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Reply 5 by Carlos

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Well, basically, History has already proven him right, consecrating him among the Great Masters, so don't worry too much. Personally, however, I am one of those who isn't crazy about him, except for a few (few) things. And, unfortunately, I don't like his orchestral music at all...

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Reply 6 by Frank

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I am very interested in his rhetoric and I am aware that history has already proven him right... but I don't think it is truly clear to everyone, it is better to reiterate and in case of doubt ... he will be one of those who remains ... despite certain "merchants".

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Reply 7 by thallo

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In these days I was thinking about one of his pieces, very well known but almost unique in its genre

the "vocalise for concert" are few in the history of music. In composing this one, Rachmaninov skipped steps, anticipating Morricone

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Reply 8 by Frank

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Carlos wrote:

unfortunately, I don't like his orchestral music at all...

I find a great freshness of ideas in it; R. is almost the negative of Chopin (read between the lines) in the sense that in Chopin's piano and orchestra concertos, wonderful ideas are entrusted to the piano... what Rachmaninov does with the orchestra and in this last one, as I was saying, the piano sometimes seems like it's doing too much "bla...bla...bla"... I don't know if that is clear.

But he remains a great; if only there were musicians like him in the world today

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Reply 10 by Carlos

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Frank wrote:

I find a great freshness of ideas in it, almost as if R. is the negative of Chopin (read between the lines) in the sense that in Chopin's piano and orchestra concertos (...)

I was talking about the symphonies...

PS aside from everything, since when do we celebrate the "one-hundred-and-forty-year anniversaries"? this year there would be plenty left with those that are actually worth celebrating...

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Reply 11 by Frank

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...you're right, every occasion is a good one to celebrate ... the birthday turned on a certain lightbulb for me

Besides, even 10 ... 20 sound bad and even 30 (... spicy that one ).

... Let's just say that for those that are perfectly round (see Corelli) "we have" given

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Reply 12 by Carlos

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Frank wrote:

also 30 (... spicy this )

I didn't understand it...

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... Let's say that for those very round ones (see Corelli) "we have" given

Good heavens... there are Poulenc and Hindemith (both died 1963), Gesualdo, born 1613, Britten, born 1913...

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Reply 13 by Frank

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Carlos wrote:

Good heavens... there are Poulenc and Hindemith (both died 1963), Gesualdo, born 1613, Britten, born 1913...

... but of course, I only mentioned Corelli because he was actually being spoken about... as were others (on Verdi and Wagner we have also given too much)

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I didn't understand it...

The little tab implies that you did understand; besides, among other things, I also appreciated your way of commemorating (I am referring to last year) ... so ....

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Reply 14 by Carlos

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Frank wrote:

The little hint suggests that you understood, besides I also appreciated your way of commemorating (I am referring to last year) ... so ....

Ah... GG! I hadn't really understood...

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