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Rachmaninov Prelude in B minor Op.32 No.10

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Opening post by SammyChopin

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Hello everyone, lately I came across an Ashkenazy recording of this prelude, which I immediately fell in love with. So I found the score on the internet, but, as in almost all of Rachmaninov's pieces, the pedaling is not included. So, in short, I am asking you, who are surely more experienced than me in the field of the sustain pedal, how to use it. THANK YOU IN ADVANCE.

P.S.= I think there might also be piano pedals [other than sustain], is that possible?

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Reply 4 by antares86

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when you have a harmonic change in the piece, change the pedal as well; for example, at the beginning of the second measure and on the last quarter of the second measure, at the beginning of measure 3 and on the last quarter of the same measure, etc...

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Reply 6 by ttw

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I agree with Antares, one of the very first parameters to take into consideration is harmony, i.e., when there is a chord change.

In reality, it can then be used, for example, to soften notes, create harmonic regions; it also depends a lot on the aesthetics of the composition and one's own aesthetic sense... in short, from how we intend the interpretation of that piece itself

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Reply 7 by SammyChopin

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Thank you so much! And if you could give me some advice on how to execute legato well and other things, including the fingering for the difficult parts, I would appreciate it very much. Thanks again!

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Reply 11 by Thesimon

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I had never heard this Rachmaninov prelude before. I can find no other words to describe it as wonderful !!

Tomorrow I will get to work immediately to study it. It is something sensational... Pure anguish, melancholy, heartfelt. I get goosebumps every time I hear it and I have already listened to it with my eyes closed at least 20 times...

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Reply 12 by Frank

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As already mentioned on the 140th anniversary, I find that Rachmaninov is still (unfairly) too underrated

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Reply 14 by Thesimon

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I have officially started studying this prelude... In terms of reading, it doesn't seem to present anything difficult, except for a few points. I find the phrasing and making the singing emerge well to be very complex instead. For SammyChopin, who intended to study it, I recommend studying phrase by phrase with hands separate, paying close attention to the sung parts. Once familiarized with the singing, put the two hands together and find the right balance before proceeding to the next phrase.

The fingering also seems quite forced to me; there are continuous shifts in position for both hands, typical of Rachmaninov; in this case too, move in time to the new position.

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Reply 18 by Rotore

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mike wrote:

I believe that Rachmaninoff is (unfairly) overrated.

This prelude is absolutely worth nothing!

I think you can say that because history has already proven him right ...think of how many of his contemporaries you could say the same about... but you cannot, because time has already eroded their works.

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Reply 19 by Frank

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mike wrote:

This prelude is absolutely worth nothing!

...I would like to hear a prelude of yours.

I think you might be right... I expect that to support such a claim, you know how to write much... much better than him.

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Reply 20 by Thesimon

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mike wrote:

This prelude is absolutely worthless!

Generally, when such peremptory opinions are expressed about names that have made music history, two situations can occur in two completely separate contexts, both however driven by envy. The first is on the part of a pianist who cannot play what a composer writes because they lack the technical-interpretative skills to sustain the performance of that piece; ergo, it is easier to say: "that piece sucks," and move on. The second is on the part of the composer who wouldn't even be able to write a chord like those written by Rach and, driven by envy, comments with contempt on a work that has entered the pages of history. There would be a third option which has more of a personal character but which generally is not expressed with this emphasis; for this reason, I felt compelled to express my opinion since your intervention lacked tact and was not driven by a personal opinion but, on the contrary, is a phrase thrown out there almost with the typical anger of a forum troll, who starts with such conjectures only to create disorder and tension within a group.

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