Harmony and counterpoint

Rhythm

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Hello everyone

I would like to ask you what rhythm is, essentially.

I learned that the tempo of a composition in musical terminology is its pace or speed.

Then I understood that meter (or metrics) divides the time into regular intervals called measures or "bars", and it is the indication found at the beginning of a piece, for example 4/4, 3/4 etc.

Then I learned that agogics is an indication regarding the performance speed (or movement or pace) of a piece and its expressiveness (agogic variations therefore indicate the expressive character of a piece as well as its pace) and so it has to do with tempo.

But what is rhythm? Is it perhaps the arrangement of values (of the quantity of notes) in time?

I still have some doubts about this matter

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Reply 2 by Frank

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Think about it, I teach a course - NOT EXHAUSTIVE - that involves 24 hours of lessons on the subject; I doubt it can be summed up in two words

I would start by getting the 'Antologia del Novecento' from Rugginenti Editore. Just to get a general idea of the problems to be addressed.

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Reply 3 by Fox

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Frank wrote:

Consider that I teach a course - NOT EXHAUSTIVE - which includes 24 hours of lessons on the matter; I doubt it can be settled in two words

I would start by getting myself the 'Antologia del novecento' from Rugginenti Editore. Just to get a general idea of the problems to be addressed.

really? but is it so complicated?

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Fox wrote:

really? but is it so complicated?

Do you have any idea how time was used (in a broad sense) in music in the 1900s? And rhythm? Not to mention the notational formulas and their relative (precise) reading. Let's just say that a couple of full lessons would only summarily cover one of Berio's sequences (and only from a rhythmic point of view).

Get the text and try to sight-sing it; then you will see that everything will be clearer to you in terms of the workload involved.

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Reply 5 by Fox

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Frank wrote:

Do you have any idea how time was used (in a broad sense) in music in the '90s? And rhythm? Not to mention the notational formulas and their (precise) relative reading. Let's just say that a couple of full lessons would only briefly cover just one of Berio's sequences (and only from a rhythmic point of view).

Get the text and try to sight-read it; then you will see that everything will be clearer to you in terms of workload.

No, I have no idea because I know very little; I will get the text, but I'll do it after school, maybe around July. There is a lot to study and learn.

Thanks in the meantime!

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Reply 6 by Fox

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Frank wrote:

Do you have any idea how time was used (in a broad sense) in music in the '90s? And rhythm? Not to mention the notational formulas and their (precise) relative reading. Let's just say that a couple of full lessons would only briefly cover just one of Berio's sequences (and only from a rhythmic point of view).

Get the text and try to sight-sing it; then you will see that everything will be clearer to you in terms of workload.

I am listening to Berio!!!!
Stanze and Pierre Boulez!! What rhythm does it have? Indecipherable!

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Reply 7 by Frank

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Look, the first example would be enough for you, which is one of the studies from Scriabin's opus 42 (we are talking about 1903!)

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Reply 8 by Fox

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Frank wrote:

Look, the first example would be enough for you, which is one of the studies from Scriabin's op. 42 (we are talking about 1903!)

Beautiful!!

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